[s-cars] Fuel guage level - sending unit questionsDave Ellis UrS4 at sympatico.caThu Jul 21 23:36:28 EDT 2005
I had this same problem on my '99.5 A4 recently (which seems to be much more common much sooner in the car's life on the newer Audis). The problem is usually one of three culprits: 1). frayed wire on sending arm 2). dirty contacts on sending unit 3). bad ground from sending unit I haven't yet had the problem on my '93 S4, but I expect it to show up sooner or later as almost all the Audi models seem afflicted with some form of this problem eventually. When I removed the sending unit the exposed contacts on the sending unit were quite filthy, but the actual problem was that the flexible wire braid connecting the sending arm to the rest of the unit had fatigued and broke. After soldering on a new braided wire (from the back of an old blown woofer/speaker) and cleaning the contacts everything is back in order again. A frayed wire will *usually* result in the fuel level reading fine until about three quarters to half a tank, at which point it will start to intermittently read empty for a short while (as the ends of the wire intermittently make contact as the fuel level arm lowers), and shortly after will always read empty as the ends of the broken wire loose contact as the arm lowers even further. Dirty contacts usually result in the fuel level consistently acting weird (read lower than it is or close to empty) at one (or several) points, with it often returning to the correct level once the fuel level goes down some more. This cycle can often repeat itself and seems to differ quite a bit from car to car (model to model?), but it's tel-tale signature seems to be reading wrong consistently at the same fuel levels from tank to tankful of fuel. Someone on the Audiworld A4 (B5) list wrote that he'd contacted AoA and was told that dirty contacts on the fuel sender was a common problem caused by a particular type of fuel additive found in North American fuel that was the culprit. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but it would explain why very few Audi European owners have reported dirty contact problems. If the problem is a bad ground, then the fuel readings indicated by the guage tend to be truly random and fluctuate quite a lot, or the quage just reads at or near empty most of the time. There was a TSB regarding this problem a while back for our cars. This problem seems to be much more rare than the first two however. As Chris Chambers noted in his email, the fasted and easiest way to check is to pull the sending unit and take a look at the flexible wire. If it's broken, replace it. While it's out clean the contacts for good measure. Usually one of those two items resolves the problem. There's a good write-up on this issue on the web somewhere for a B5 A4 model (it's pretty much the same procedure for our S4/S6) though I can't seem to find it at the moment. I'll post it if I find it, but perhaps another lister might know it also. If you do need to repair or clean the sender, or even if you just wish to verify the operation of the sending unit separately from any other car wiring, you can check it's function by measuring the resistance across the two contacts of the sending unit (unplugged from the car of course) while moving the sending arm up and down with your hand. At one end of the scale the resistance should be around 50-60 Ohms and at the other near infinite. Unfortunately I can't remember which end of the scale corresponds to which resistive value at the moment, but if you're in this range and the values change smoothly and consistently as you move the sending arm from stop to stop you should be good to go. If after this test it checks out fine but the problem appears again after re-installation, then it's likely there's either a grounding problem, or the fuel guage itself is buggered. Best of luck! -Dave Thompson wrote: >Just took a 900+ mile drive from VT>PA>RI> back to VT and in >that time of a few fill ups our //S6 decided to only show 3/4 >full on the guage after topping up with petrol. Drats. I >thought that it might have been the folding beach chair that >lays down perfectly in the luggage spot in the back that may >have fritzed with the sending unit wires, but everything looks >fine. Just turning 150k miles. > >Collective //SGeniuses, what should I look for? >- Guage calibration? >- New fuel sending unit? >- How much and where to purchaseÐdealer only? >- Should I install a new FP while I'm at it? > >I've got the Bentley CD so I'm going to dive into this tonight. >Please advise. > >Thompson >1995 //S6 (only 3/4 there...) >1985 Porsche 944 >1996 Tacoma 4WD beast >
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