[200q20v] Oversteer in stock 91 200tq

Chris Covington malth at umich.edu
Tue Nov 28 21:19:38 EST 2000


I don't see how the model of tires matters one bit, so long as the
diameter is the same.  I had different brands all together (Yoko and 
Goodyear) before I got my 16" rims and didn't have any oversteer
problems...  I'd look beyond the tires - alignment, struts, bushings.  For
the same amount of money you'd throw away on new "matching" tires you
could get bushings done all around, or an alignment, or tie rods, etc.

Oversteer is not a bad problem to have anyway. ;)

Chris
'91 2cq

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Edward J Kellock wrote:

> I agree with Henry.  Get those tires matched up.  I would
> also highly recommend getting your alignment and rear 
> bushings checked.  If all that sounds just too much trouble,
> then I'd be willing to trade you even up for my Coupe GT.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:51 +0000 hah at srv.net writes:
> > 
> > Please try again with same size+brand+style tires on all four 
> > wheels, for 
> > best results with an all-wheel-drive car. Mine is not at all 
> > twitchy, and 
> > takes gross, intentional throttle abuse to cause power-on oversteer 
> > in the 
> > wet/snow; trailing-throttle oversteer also requires quite slippery 
> > conditions - I do try to avoid TTO, personally.
> > 
> > HTH
> > Henry Harper
> > http://www.srv.net/~hah
> > 1991 200 quattro, 111k, parked at James' again
> > 1988 GTI 16v, 215k, sure is rattly after driving the Audi
> > 
> > >Do many people have experience with this?  Seems like everything I 
> > read 
> > about the factory tuning shows peoples experience to be of a car 
> > heavily 
> > biased towards understeer.  Although I've got to wonder if it has 
> > anything 
> > to do with my tire setup (different types of the same size Toyo 
> > tires on 
> > the front verse the rear), I have noticed a tendency for some 
> > power-on, 
> > lift-throttle, and late-braking (or is it trail-braking) oversteer 
> > in the 
> > wet.  To be fair though, of the above, I have only seen late braking 
> > 
> > oversteer carry on into dry conditions.  It is kind of fun in 
> > certain 
> > situations (slower, sharper, 2nd-gearish speed corners in the wet) 
> > but in 
> > wet conditions on higher speed sweepers (ie freeway exchanges), 
> > there is a 
> > noticable twitchiness in the rear of the car relative to throttle.  
> > All 
> > else aside, the higher speed corners are somewhat humbling, and well 
> > my 
> > driving style is stymied in these conditions; I'm not to thrilled 
> > about the 
> > prospects of cracking my car up.  Have had t!
> > >he chance to experiment in quasi-track conditions (office park at 
> > about 1 
> > in the morning on a Saturday night), but never on a true track with 
> > better 
> > runout conditions.  What are others experience with this?  Any 
> > advice?  
> > >
> > >As an aside, in my office park experience I did find that the right 
> > amount 
> > of throttle in my one and only 3rd gear corner did help to keep the 
> > rear 
> > planted, but...
> > >
> > 
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