[200q20v] power steering hose (rebuilding) question

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In a message dated Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:10:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Phil 
Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net> writes:

<< Ol' Lago Blue and I had only a week of smooth sailing after our door-lock
episode, but now the "notorious" high-pressure hose (from PS pump to
steering rack) is starting a major hemorrhage. A number of listers have
posted about having hydraulic hoses rebuilt locally at a fairly low cost.
Others have pointed out that there is a special, internal damping structure
in the oem version of this particular one. So I wonder if it should be
possible for the rebuilder to install that same oem "inner section", so the
hose will be functionally identical to the oem version? Or are we limited
to doing without those "innards", which according to Bernie Benz will cause
the steering to be a more noisy (?) than normal. Is this the "moaning"
sound I've seen referred to?

Bernie, how serious was the effect of omiting  this inner damper? I sure
would like to avoid any clearly audible noise that I'd need to "get used
to".

Phil Rose 
 >>

Phil and Bernie (et al):
Here's a recent thread off the V8q list, including a source to rebuild the 
hose.
chris

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:39:18 -0500
From: Roland Broberg <broberg at execpc.com>
To: gtur at lucent.com
Cc: Audi V8 quattro list <v8q at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Hose
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Here is what I said earlier about hydraulic hose repair::
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Subject:
             HELP! The V8 Is Out of Service-Follow Up
        Date:
             Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:44:44 -0500
       From:
             Roland Broberg <broberg at execpc.com>
 Organization:
             Broberg Engineering-BECO
         To:
             quattro list <quattro at audifans.com>, Jay Greene
<hohsales at spokane.net>




Listers who responded to "HELP! The V8 Is Out of Service", here is the
follow up.  Rearmost hydraulic hose on the pump sprung a small leak but
that leak portended a greater leak and had to be fixed. No thanks to the
8 different hydraulic shops in and around the Milwaukee area that could
or would not do the job of replacing or rebuilding the hose.  The IA
Audi dealer had no stock in that hose and would have to order
it-$263.00, I believe.  Several listers offered suggestions but they
were all on the west coast.

I am happy to report the V8 is back on the road with new expansion hose
on the back of the pump.  Thanks to Jay Greene at Spokane House of Hose
and those that suggested HOH  Here is the solution:

http://www.spokanehose.com.
TOLL FREE U.S.A.    LOCAL      TOLL FREE FAX
1-800-541-6351       535-3638     1-800-541-4673
hohsales at spokane.net

Nice web page Jay!

I called on HOH Tuesday evening 5:30 after a fruitless day of searching
local sources and where each would send me to a hopeful alternate.  I
asked if Jay thought they could do the repair job before I wasted the
several days shipping and the expense only to find out that it could not
be done.  Realize that this is a weird hose.  It has a smaller hose
inside of it that makes no hydraulic connection on one end.  That hose
slides into a metal line heading "toward" the rack.  (Those that
corrected me as to the final destination are probably correct-that line
does go toward the rack but it is probably for the brake side of the
system and it does go through the firewall.)  Anyway, Jay says he's sure
they can make the hose, but worst case is that they will cut my ends off
the hose and braze them on new non-metric fittings in standard hose.  I
FexXd the thing at 5:45 PM Tuesday Milwaukee to Spokane.  Wednesday at
5:30PM I called Jay to see if they had received the hose and to see what
his opinion was now that he had seen it.  He said "sure", they had
already rebuilt the hose and shipped it back!  I received the rebuilt
hose with my original fittings and new crimp sleeves on Thursday at
noon-that's less than 48 hours!  I won't even tell you what the prices
was as I think HOH undercharged me.  I paid much more to FedX than HOH.
The vinyl hose inside was unaffected by the rebuild.  By now you
probably think I'd recommend HOH and you are very correct.

Thanks to all who assisted and to Jay for the personalized service!!  Go
House of Hose!
----------------------------------------------------
Roland

George Tur wrote:

> Ron Woods wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have a quick question... Since I am not at home at the moment, who
> > has the information on the shop that will rebuild a hose quickly?
> >
> > The high pressure hose from my pump to the rack needs replacing, the
> > dealer want $256 which I am willing to pay, but thought I should at
> > least check other sources and rebuild shops. If you can send the info to
> > me via email I would appreciate it. Thanks!
> >
> > Ron
> > 1990 V8Q
> > 1986 4KCSQ
>
> I've been looking into this myself since the hose on my PS has been weeping
> for the past 4 months.... BTW..The PS fluid was/is the cause of the odd
> burning smell that occasionally comes from the drivers side wheel well.
> Sometimes enough fluid collects to get on the hot wheel components and cause
> the burning smell.
>
> Anyway, after searching through the archives on the quattro list I found
> that a number of people who had the hoses rebuilt have had hose failure
> within a year or so. Track record for rebuilds doesn't appear to be so good.
> Might be better to go for new hoses. Anyone on the list have information
> that supports or disputes this?
>
> George Tur
> Jackson, NJ
> 91 V8

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Current: 90V8Q, 93 100CSQ Wagon. Former:91 100, 86 5KCSTQ, 84 5KS