[200q20v] Warped UFO's - not anymore!

[Bernie Benz]

I suggested that a chassis jack be used.  More specificly, if the front of
the chassis is the jacking point such that both front wheels are off the
ground you will have no wheel couple exerting force thru the ball joint, and
little if any force from the sway bar as the wheels are in the same extreem
droop position.

> From: Phil Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:46:11 -0500
> To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
> Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [200q20v] Warped UFO's - not anymore!
> 
> At 11:08 AM -0800 2/1/01, Bernie Benz wrote:
>> You lost the thread.  We were talking ball joints, not sway bar bushings.
> 
> No, in my earlier question I surmised that sway bar removal might be
> needed in order to unload the C/A for checking the ball joint. No one
> commented about that.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> From: Phil & Judy Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:28:52 -0500
>>> To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
>>> Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [200q20v] Warped UFO's - not anymore!
>>> 
>>> So the sway bar (and its bushing) are sufficiently compliant that one
>>> should be able to feel joint movement using a prybar against the C/A
>>> --if the balljoint is loose?
>>> 
>>> At 12:56 AM -0800 2/1/01, Bernie Benz wrote:
>>>> Scott's ball joint check is probably the best, but inasmuch as the ball
>>>> joint is unloaded when the wheel is off the ground on a chassis jack, one
>>>> can get in there with a pry bar and check for loosness without disassembly.
>>>> 
>>>> Bernie
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Phil Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:59:12 -0500
>>>>> To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
>>>>> Cc: <QSHIPQ at aol.com>, 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [200q20v] Warped UFO's - not anymore!
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 4:37 PM -0500 1/31/01, Bernie Benz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can share that the
>>>>>>> outer ball joints on Paul's car had about .250 play in them, in fact the
>>>>>>> inner bushings weren't really all that bad.  The play in the outer ball
>>>>>>> joints is what I believe gave the symptoms of warped rotors,
>>>>>>> when indeed it
>>>>>>> was the whole wheel and tire wobbling during braking.
>>>>>> This rings true with my old 5KTQ that my son has.  At 260K it is slowly
>>>>>> getting "loose" in the front end, but no brake symptoms.  Most
>>>>>> likely those
>>>>>> ball joints, as everything else looks to be in good shape, SB bushings
>>>>>> having been replaced.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So--what's the best/easiest way to check for excessive balljoint
>>>>> play--assuming there's been no very obvious sounds or handling symptoms? I
>>>>> assume that to check will require the SB-end would have to be removed--and
>>>>> also that the balljoint is not replaceable without a complete C/A?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil Rose
>>>>> Rochester, NY
>>>>> mailto:pjrose at frontiernet.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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