[200q20v] RE: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #188 - 9 msgs

Thu Jan 18 17:21:05 EST 2001

Re: Cup holders

What works for me is the one I bought at Brookstone. The
mounts fit perfectly through one of the center console
heater vents on the dash. On cold days, the hot air further
warms your coffee. In the summer, drink Iced Tea in
conjunction with the AC. Not bad, eh?

Richard E. Berlin, Jr.
<mailto:rberlin at feltonberlin.com>
(800) 215-9980

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Stumbling Problem (George Sidman)
   2. Re: Re: 200q20v mileage (Phil & Judy Rose)
   3. Re: Re: 200q20v mileage (WARATAP at aol.com)
   4. RE: FW: cupholders (Chaplen, John )
   5. Magic elixer? (Beer, Jerald)
   6. Re: Magic elixer? (David Schaible)
   7. FW: [200q20v] Magic elixer? (Beer, Jerald)
   8. Re: great new performance parts site (Phil & Judy
Rose)
   9. Re: [s-cars] Magic elixer? (Robert Myers)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:36:33 -0800
From: George Sidman <sidman at montereynet.net>
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: [200q20v] Re: Stumbling Problem

I had this stumbling issue last year and replaced all the
usual stuff. The problem was a very dirty throttle plate.
This almost never gets serviced/cleaned, and over time the
gunk builds up and inhibits smooth operation.  It is very
easy to pull and clean, and if you are careful the gasket
may be re-used........
--
George Sidman, President
Nousoft, Inc.   -   Monterey Network Center
www.nousoft.com  -  www.montereynet.net
sidman at montereynet.net
9701 Blue Larkspur Lane
Monterey, CA  93940
831 657-1510

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:01:36 -0500
From: Phil & Judy Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
Reply-To: pjrose at frontiernet.net
To: Mike Miller <mikemilr at blackfoot.net>
CC: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>,
        200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [200q20v] Re: 200q20v mileage

But doesn't this get us back to the old (I think
unresolved?) question of:

"Assume that 87 octane gives 'best' mpg and that the car
appears to run OK with it. Aren't you then likely to be
pushing the ECU at (or dangerously close to) its limits of
timing retardation? Meaning: greater risk of knock damage?"

Not necessarily my strongly held opinion, but I've let that
reasoning influence my octane choice when fueling the 3B.
Plus the fact that the Gnomes of Ingolstadt wouldn't give us
a "bum steer" about octane requirements, now would they...?
:-)

Phil

Mike Miller wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie Benz" <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
>
> > When you need the higher octane, you're not concerned
about mileage.
> > When mileage is the goal, 87 octane is fine.
> >
> > Bernie
>
> Here in western Montana, I use 87 octane, still pull
1.6-1.7 boost at 5000
> feet and get ~25-27 mpg driving 75ish. I routinely see 26+
driving the 280
> miles to Spokane over 2 mountain passes, cruising at 80
most of the way.
> Tires are 225/60/15 BFG comp T/A at 35 psi.
>
> mike miller
>
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Message: 3
From: WARATAP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:47 EST
Subject: Re: [200q20v] Re: 200q20v mileage
To: pjrose at frontiernet.net, mikemilr at blackfoot.net
CC: b.m.benz at prodigy.net, 200q20v at audifans.com

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In a message dated 1/17/2001 1:59:00 PM Eastern Standard
Time,
pjrose at frontiernet.net writes:

> But doesn't this get us back to the old (I think
> unresolved?) question of:
>
> "Assume that 87 octane gives 'best' mpg and that the car
> appears to run OK with it. Aren't you then likely to be
> pushing the ECU at (or dangerously close to) its limits of
> timing retardation? Meaning: greater risk of knock
damage?"
>
> Not necessarily my strongly held opinion, but I've let
that
> reasoning influence my octane choice when fueling the 3B.
> Plus the fact that the Gnomes of Ingolstadt wouldn't give
us
> a "bum steer" about octane requirements, now would
they...?
> :-)
>
> Phil
>
>

I agree with Phil on this one...especially if you've had an
ECU upgrade
--which basically tells you not to run anything under 91
octane (lest I be
mistaken) when using said ECU.

-Ingo
'91 200q20v with a few mods...
http://members.aol.com/Quattringo/index.html

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<HTML>In a message
dated 1/17/2001 1:59:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 pjrose at frontiernet.net writes:
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px
solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:
5px">But doesn't this get us back to the old (I think
 unresolved?) question of:
 
 "Assume that 87 octane gives 'best' mpg and that the car
 appears to run OK with it. Aren't you then likely to be
 pushing the ECU at (or dangerously close to) its limits
of
 timing retardation? Meaning: greater risk of knock
damage?"
 
 Not necessarily my strongly held opinion, but I've let
that
 reasoning influence my octane choice when fueling the
3B.
 Plus the fact that the Gnomes of Ingolstadt wouldn't
give us
 a "bum steer" about octane requirements, now would
they...?
 :-)
 
 Phil
 
 </BLOCKQUOTE>
 
 I agree with Phil on this one...especially if you've had
an ECU upgrade
 --which basically tells you not to run anything under 91
octane (lest I be
 mistaken) when using said ECU.
 
 -Ingo
 '91 200q20v with a few mods...
 http://members.aol.com/Quattringo/index.html</HTM
L>

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Message: 4
From: "Chaplen, John " <John.Chaplen at us.wmmercer.com>
To: "200q20v (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Subject: RE: [200q20v] FW: cupholders
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:56:27 -0600

The best cup holder is the passenger...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller [mailto:mikemilr at blackfoot.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:19 PM
Cc: 200q20v (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [200q20v] FW: cupholders

----- Original Message -----

>
> Aha! There's your mileage problem. I don't use no stinkin'
> cupholder and instead balance my coffee cup on my right
> knee. This requires an extremely steady modulation of the
> throttle pedal and evidently accounts for the discrepancy
> between our mpg values. :-).

I like Phil Paynes response to a cup holder thread many
years ago on the
"main list".  To paraphrase " My passengers need to be
holding on and not
worrying about their cups" as they shouldn't be drinking
liquid in his car.

mike miller

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Message: 5
From: "Beer, Jerald" <jbeer at boosecasey.com>
To: "200q20v (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Cc: "S-Car-List (E-mail 2)" <s-car-list at egroups.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:08:18 -0500
Subject: [200q20v] Magic elixer?

Ok guys, I went looking for toluene last night at the  H
Depot. No toluene,
but they have a product called xylene. No ingredients on the
can, but on the
side it says it can be used in place of toluene. Have I
found the magic
elixer??
regards,
Jerry
91 200q

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:40:36 -0500
To: "Beer, Jerald" <jbeer at boosecasey.com>,
        "200q20v (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>
From: David Schaible <dschaible at penw.com>
Subject: Re: [200q20v] Magic elixer?
Cc: "S-Car-List (E-mail 2)" <s-car-list at egroups.com>

xylene is also known as dimethylbenzene and C8H10

tolulene is also known as methylbenzene and formula is C7H8

the difference is the presence of an additional methyl group
on the benzene
ring for xylene....i don't know what you are using it for,
if you are using
it as an organic solvent to clean something then they are
very similar, if
you are doing chemical synthesis, then they are not
interchangable......if
you are trying to make trinitrotolulene (TNT) or something
similar to it,
there are other more appropriate lists to get info ;)

At 09:08 AM 1/18/01 -0500, Beer, Jerald wrote:
>Ok guys, I went looking for toluene last night at the  H
Depot. No toluene,
>but they have a product called xylene. No ingredients on
the can, but on the
>side it says it can be used in place of toluene. Have I
found the magic
>elixer??
>regards,
>Jerry
>91 200q
>_______________________________________________
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Message: 7
From: "Beer, Jerald" <jbeer at boosecasey.com>
To: "'dschaible at penw.com'" <dschaible at penw.com>
Cc: "200q20v (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>,
        "S-Car-List (E-mail)"
	 <s-car-list at eGroups.com>
Subject: FW: [200q20v] Magic elixer?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:00:17 -0500

Dave
  This has been discussed as an additive to gasolone as an
octane booster,
nothing more sinister than that! It would appear for that
purpose they are
NOT interchangeable.
Regards,
Jerry
91 200q

-----Original Message-----
From: David Schaible [mailto:dschaible at penw.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:41 AM
To: Beer, Jerald; 200q20v (E-mail)
Cc: S-Car-List (E-mail 2)
Subject: Re: [200q20v] Magic elixer?

xylene is also known as dimethylbenzene and C8H10

tolulene is also known as methylbenzene and formula is C7H8

the difference is the presence of an additional methyl group
on the benzene
ring for xylene....i don't know what you are using it for,
if you are using
it as an organic solvent to clean something then they are
very similar, if
you are doing chemical synthesis, then they are not
interchangable......if
you are trying to make trinitrotolulene (TNT) or something
similar to it,
there are other more appropriate lists to get info ;)

At 09:08 AM 1/18/01 -0500, Beer, Jerald wrote:
>Ok guys, I went looking for toluene last night at the  H
Depot. No toluene,
>but they have a product called xylene. No ingredients on
the can, but on
the
>side it says it can be used in place of toluene. Have I
found the magic
>elixer??
>regards,
>Jerry
>91 200q

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:45:32 -0500
From: Phil & Judy Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
Reply-To: pjrose at frontiernet.net
To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
CC: Brandon Hull <brandon at cardinalpartners.com>,
        200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
Subject: Re: [200q20v] great new performance parts site

Bernie Benz wrote:
>
> I have just looked at the Performance Parts section of
this web page, and
> read the discriptions of the items therein featured.  What
absolute B.S!
>
> Bernie

Oh Bernie! Is that just sour grapes 'cause they wouldn't
carry your strut brace? :-)

Phil

\
> > From: Brandon Hull <brandon at cardinalpartners.com>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:54:44 -0500
> > To: "Audi 20V (E-mail)" <audi20v at rennlist.org>, "AUDI S
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> >
> > A great new entrant into the performance parts arena.
> > check out:
> > http://www.84to96.net/kaleco/performance.htm
> >
> > No affiliation, just a satisfied customer
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:48:14 -0500
To: "Beer, Jerald" <gsfent at prodigy.net>
From: Robert Myers <rmyers at oak.total-web.net>
Cc: "200q20v (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>,
        "S-Car-List (E-mail 2)" <s-car-list at egroups.com>
Subject: [200q20v] Re: [s-cars] Magic elixer?

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Perhaps.  Toluene could (improperly) be called methyl
benzene.  Xylene
could (improperly) be called dimethyl benzene.  The two
compounds are
chemically quite similar.

At 09:08 AM 1/18/01 -0500, Beer, Jerald wrote:

>Ok guys, I went looking for toluene last night at the  H
Depot. No toluene,
>but they have a product called xylene. No ingredients on
the can, but on the
>side it says it can be used in place of toluene. Have I
found the magic
>elixer??
>regards,
>Jerry
>91 200q
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