Yeah, but those stock BBS are a PITA to clean. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.m.benz at prodigy.net] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:17 PM To: TM Cc: 200q20V mailing list Subject: Re: [200q20v] 5x112(?) Ronal R8's No worse to clean than the stock BBS mesh on the 200Q-20V. Bernie