this car sucks(vacuum line, group purchase?)

[Dave]

i got the steelbraided tubing for 2$/ft at autozone
--- Kneale Brownson <knotnook at traverse.com> wrote:
> --
> I'd be interested in a group buy of XXX feet of the
> tubing.  It's probably
> considerably cheaper than $3 a foot on a spool of
> (just a guess) 100
> feet.  I doubt you'll get it much cheaper than the
> by-the-foot price if you
> just go for a partial spool.  No idea how much you
> need, though, to do a
> car completely.
>
> At 12:29 AM 07/07/2002 -0400, Brett Dikeman wrote:
>
> >I've got a bunch of vacuum leaks...among them, the
> ECU moisture trap.
> >Nosing around with a poor-man's stethoscope, not
> only does the trap
> >leak(I haven't figured out how on earth the trap is
> leaking, but it
> >is), but so does the hose between the trap and hard
> plastic line
> >hose.  It is very amusing; turn the car off, and
> with the kickpanel
> >removed, you can actually hear the vacuum release
> through that
> >section of line.  If the hose in the kickpanel is
> in this tough
> >shape, god knows what kind of shape the rest of the
> vacuum lines are
> >in.
> >
> >I found what -appeared- to be new/good condition
> vacuum line hanging
> >around on the shelf...substituted it in place of
> the old vacuum line.
> >Nope...it leaks in various places almost the
> continuous length -as
> >well-; running my kludged steth up and down the
> hose, I kept hearing
> >very small leaks.  Only the trap->ecu hose is
> completely silent.
> >
> >Viton hose is most certainly the ultimate
> replacement; its tough,
> >oil/heat resistant, and damn near guaranteed to
> outlast anything else
> >out there.
> >
> >The catch is, Viton hose isn't cheap.  The size
> used on the
> >ECU<->trap<->plastic line seems to be 4mm ID/8mm
> OD/2mm wall(I
> >believe there is a second size as well, used for
> one or two other
> >things.)  Closest I could find in McMaster was
> 4/6/1, and it is
> >anywhere from $2.60-$3 per foot.
> >
> >That sounds like a lot...and it is...except that,
> for the ECU, one
> >needs all of at most 2 feet.  It is doing all the
> rest of the lines
> >which will be the expensive proposition.  There is
> something to be
> >said, however, for never having to worry about a
> vacuum line in the
> >car again.
> >
> >I think I can do better than McMaster; I'm checking
> with a friend who
> >has wholesale connections(if you know of cheaper
> prices than the
> >above McMaster prices, let me know.  And
> no...silicone is NOT an
> >option, its temp rating isn't any better than
> regular rubber line and
> >it is NOT oil resistant AT ALL, in fact, it is
> completely
> >inappropriate for environments with oil, which is
> why I scratch my
> >head bigtime when I see all this
> silicone-boost-hose nonsense.)
> >We're looking at 4/8/2mm, 60A durometer Viton(or
> similar.)
> >
> >Who else would be interested in jumping in on a
> group purchase of
> >this stuff for a quantity sufficient to re-do all
> the engine vacuum
> >lines?  Among other things, this Viton line should
> be durable enough
> >to handle the temps that kill the turbo bypass
> control line(Viton is
> >rated to 400 degrees F), although nothing beats a
> thin copper line
> >for that application.)
> >
> >Actually, does anyone happen to know how much line
> it takes to
> >completely "do" a 3B, from experience?
> >
> >Brett
> >--
> >----
> >"They that give up essential liberty to obtain
> temporary
> >safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben
> Franklin
> >http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/
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