New Member, Not a new Audi owner

Chris Covington malth at umich.edu
Thu Jun 13 11:19:42 EDT 2002


Bernie, not everyone has as fat a wallet as yours and likes to afford the
more expensive maintenance on the UFOs vs. the G60s.  So when the G60s
were a free switchout, and came with free new hardware (incl. new struts,
pads, rotors, calipers, etc. - those all add up to some serious $$$
saved) vs. however many miles one had on their UFOs and the other
associated components, I didn't have a problem with that.

I guess if I had the fat wallet syndrome and liked to spend more like
you, then I'd be fine with keeping the UFOs, worn struts, pads, etc.  But
I don't.

Chris
'91 200q20v


On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Bernie Benz wrote:

> Not suprising.  I've always been a proponent of UFOs vs. G60s because of the
> 15% braking torque UFO advantage due to its larger rotor diameter, piston
> area remains the same.  Paying for a real upgrade in braking torque and heat
> capacity, as you are planning, can possibably be justified but paying for,
> or even allowing Audi to to so to you for a down grade is beyoud my
> comprehension.
>
> Bernie
>
> > From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at bear.com>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:11:00 -0400
> > To: "'Bernie Benz'" <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
> > Subject: RE: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >
> > I find that your opinion of the UFO "upgrade" is surprising.  Ultimately the
> > UFO's are better but very few people can get them to brake smoothly and
> > consistently.  And parts (and labor) are VERY expensive.  That's why it was
> > changed under warranty.  I'm not happy with the brakes on my S4 either but
> > when I used new rotors and pads both front and rear, I got a firm pedal with
> > fairly strong stopping power.  I just wouldn't trust them at the track.  But
> > that's why the S4 will be getting the Big Reds when the budget will allow
> > it.  The 200TQW will probably remain mostly stock.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.m.benz at prodigy.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:48 PM
> > To: Freed, David (Exchange)
> > Cc: 200q20V mailing list
> > Subject: Re: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >
> > Two comments, Dave.
> >
> > Audi's "fix" conversion from UFOs to G60s, IMO, was a downgrade, not an
> > upgrade in braking performance.
> >
> > Rotary shaft seals:  If a seal is leaking and no other internal symptoms,
> > shch as bad noises, add a half a can of engine seal restorer the rear end,
> > and the other half into the tranny.  Of course this works on engine shaft
> > seals also.  Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> >> From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at bear.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:54:20 -0400
> >> To: "'200q20v List'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> >> Subject: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >>
> >> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> >> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
> >> --
> >> I just joined this mailing list because I just got a new (to me) '91 200
> > TQ
> >> Avant in Indigo Mica (I've corrected my previous error of Lago) with Grey
> >> leather and 114,000 miles.  The body and interior are in excellent shape
> > and
> >> a previous owner had the UFO upgraded to S4 front brakes plus a Hoppen
> > chip.
> >> I've already received congrats from several list members because I also
> > own
> >> a '93 S4 and belong to the S-Car list.  I've include my original post to
> > the
> >> S-Car list as an introduction.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's my problem:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a leak coming from the Right Rear differential seal.  Is this a
> >> common seal failure or a sign of internal wear that could cost big bucks?
> >>
> >
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