New Member, Not a new Audi owner

Chris Covington malth at umich.edu
Thu Jun 13 12:04:31 EDT 2002


You've never had to replace your struts?

Chris

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bernie Benz wrote:

> Chris,  In 100K I've spent a whole $65. (too much, I admit) for new pads for
> my UFOs, that's all.  So, the G60s were a free downgrade!  Was that good?
> Even if it was $2K worth of downgrade parts.
>
> Bernie
>
> > From: Chris Covington <malth at umich.edu>
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
> > To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
> > Cc: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at bear.com>, 200q20V mailing list
> > <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > Subject: Re: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >
> > Bernie, not everyone has as fat a wallet as yours and likes to afford the
> > more expensive maintenance on the UFOs vs. the G60s.  So when the G60s
> > were a free switchout, and came with free new hardware (incl. new struts,
> > pads, rotors, calipers, etc. - those all add up to some serious $$$
> > saved) vs. however many miles one had on their UFOs and the other
> > associated components, I didn't have a problem with that.
> >
> > I guess if I had the fat wallet syndrome and liked to spend more like
> > you, then I'd be fine with keeping the UFOs, worn struts, pads, etc.  But
> > I don't.
> >
> > Chris
> > '91 200q20v
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Bernie Benz wrote:
> >
> >> Not suprising.  I've always been a proponent of UFOs vs. G60s because of the
> >> 15% braking torque UFO advantage due to its larger rotor diameter, piston
> >> area remains the same.  Paying for a real upgrade in braking torque and heat
> >> capacity, as you are planning, can possibably be justified but paying for,
> >> or even allowing Audi to to so to you for a down grade is beyoud my
> >> comprehension.
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >>
> >>> From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at bear.com>
> >>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:11:00 -0400
> >>> To: "'Bernie Benz'" <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
> >>> Subject: RE: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >>>
> >>> I find that your opinion of the UFO "upgrade" is surprising.  Ultimately the
> >>> UFO's are better but very few people can get them to brake smoothly and
> >>> consistently.  And parts (and labor) are VERY expensive.  That's why it was
> >>> changed under warranty.  I'm not happy with the brakes on my S4 either but
> >>> when I used new rotors and pads both front and rear, I got a firm pedal with
> >>> fairly strong stopping power.  I just wouldn't trust them at the track.  But
> >>> that's why the S4 will be getting the Big Reds when the budget will allow
> >>> it.  The 200TQW will probably remain mostly stock.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.m.benz at prodigy.net]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:48 PM
> >>> To: Freed, David (Exchange)
> >>> Cc: 200q20V mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >>>
> >>> Two comments, Dave.
> >>>
> >>> Audi's "fix" conversion from UFOs to G60s, IMO, was a downgrade, not an
> >>> upgrade in braking performance.
> >>>
> >>> Rotary shaft seals:  If a seal is leaking and no other internal symptoms,
> >>> shch as bad noises, add a half a can of engine seal restorer the rear end,
> >>> and the other half into the tranny.  Of course this works on engine shaft
> >>> seals also.  Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
> >>>
> >>> Bernie
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at bear.com>
> >>>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:54:20 -0400
> >>>> To: "'200q20v List'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> >>>> Subject: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> >>>>
> >>>> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> >>>> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
> >>>> --
> >>>> I just joined this mailing list because I just got a new (to me) '91 200
> >>> TQ
> >>>> Avant in Indigo Mica (I've corrected my previous error of Lago) with Grey
> >>>> leather and 114,000 miles.  The body and interior are in excellent shape
> >>> and
> >>>> a previous owner had the UFO upgraded to S4 front brakes plus a Hoppen
> >>> chip.
> >>>> I've already received congrats from several list members because I also
> >>> own
> >>>> a '93 S4 and belong to the S-Car list.  I've include my original post to
> >>> the
> >>>> S-Car list as an introduction.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's my problem:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a leak coming from the Right Rear differential seal.  Is this a
> >>>> common seal failure or a sign of internal wear that could cost big bucks?
> >>>>
> >>>
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