Suspension options

Patrick Anderson ptanders at attbi.com
Fri Nov 15 12:45:59 EST 2002 

Yes, when you lower the car your suspension geometry will change. You end up
losing proper tolerances for camber adjustment, read you will be wearing out
the inside shoulder of your tires. There is a fix for this problem. You do
the "Igor" conversion in which you redrill the holes on the top plate (the
one that bolts to the underside of the shock tower sheet metal) and offset
them a little from the original holes to bring your suspension back into
proper position. My dad and I did it on our cars and it works great.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mullane" <tmullane at snet.net>
To: "Steven Hauptmann" <hauptmanns at MAIL.LLR.STATE.SC.US>;
<200q20v at audifans.com>; "Linus Toy" <linust at mindspring.com>
Cc: <pck at gte.net>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Suspension options


> I would like to drop alittle, but I am concerned about altering ride
height
> too much given the geometry of the suspension.  Less than an inch sounds
> good, more than that may be more than I want.  Of course the ride is the
> most important thing.
>
> Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linus Toy" <linust at mindspring.com>
> To: "Tom Mullane" <tmullane at snet.net>; "Steven Hauptmann"
> <hauptmanns at MAIL.LLR.STATE.SC.US>; <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Cc: <pck at gte.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Suspension options
>
>
> > Be aware that there are at least 3 sets of springs from H&R that will
fit
> > our cars:
> > * #29800 - spec'd specifically for the 200q20v
> > * #29921 - originally spec'd for the V8q and later for the urS4/S6 as
well
> > * #29771 - "race" stage 3 for the urS4/S6.  i believe originally spec'd
> for
> > the '97 euro S6+ (V8)  I know of no one in the US using this on a '91
200q
> >
> > I have been running 29921 with Bilstein HD (US nomenclature) for the
last
> > four years.  I ran this setup with stock 15" wheels for about 6 months
and
> > do NOT recommend it.  The strength of the springs is initially lost to
the
> > higher sidewalls of the tires, and the car has a tough time setting in a
> > corner or curve at "reasonable" speeds.   With 16" (225/50-16) or 17"
> > (235/45-17) wheels & tires, these work well, with much improved response
> > and handling.  To some (my wife) though the car is harsh--I call it a
> firm,
> > well controlled ride, though IMO, front compression damping is a bit too
> > much and rear rebound damping is a bit too light
> >
> > This combination does NOT drop the car as much as stated--my car dropped
> > about 5/8 to 3/4 inch all around.  Perhaps in the heavier urS4/S6, the
car
> > would drop the specified 1.2" and I suspect my car would have dropped
3/4
> > to 7/8 inch with either Boge or Koni shocks.    FWIW, my goal was to not
> > drop the car more than 3/4" due to the nature of the strut suspension on
> > our cars.
> >
> > Overall--I like the results, am very happy with it...only problem you
will
> > have is if you hop into someone else's 200q20v with stock
suspension--last
> > weekend I carpooled to Portland (Quattrofest @ PIR) with Pete Kunzler's
> > 200q20v: stock springs and Konis and a loaded roof rack--his wallowing
pig
> > didn't like what I tried to do -- Pete--fix your car, and not by buying
> > something else :)
> >
> > --Linus
> >
> > At 08:48 AM 11/15/2002 , Tom Mullane wrote:
> > >Steve,
> > >
> > >Any difference in ride height?  Where did you get them?  Thanks.
> > >
> > >Tom
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Steven Hauptmann" <hauptmanns at MAIL.LLR.STATE.SC.US>
> > >To: "'Tom Mullane'" <tmullane at snet.net>; <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > >Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:14 AM
> > >Subject: RE: Suspension options
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > I have recently installed the H&R springs and Bilstein Sports on our
> 200
> > >20v
> > > > (w/std. 215/60-15 rubber) and I love it. It's the wife's daily
driver
> and
> > > > she does not think it's harsh at all. We find it to be much more
solid
> > > > feeling and nose dive is much improved, as is stability at speed.
IMO
> the
> > > > car is much more fun to drive.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Hauptmann
> > > > South Carolina
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Mullane [mailto:tmullane at snet.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:02 AM
> > > > To: 200q20v at audifans.com
> > > > Subject: Suspension options
> > > >
> > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > At the risk of opening a can of worms...
> > > >
> > > > I have a stock suspension in my 200 and an thinking of doing
something
> to
> > > > eliminate some of the body roll.  I recently upgraded the stock BBS
> wheels
> > > > to some urS4 wheels and I enjoy the difference.  I like the stock
> ride,
> > >but
> > > > corners are really scary.  I would not be adverse to dropping the
ride
> > > > height a little (nice look) but I am predominately interested in
more
> > >stable
> > > > ride, but not too harsh on New England roads.  Asking too much?
> > > > Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > I am sure this has been hashed and re-hashed, but after searching
the
> > > > archives, it appears that many of the available options may have
> changed
> > >as
> > > > the cars get older.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I have not done anything to upgrade my brakes yet.  I expect to
> do
> > >that
> > > > after I get rid of the nose drive that the car does when I brake
now.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Mullane
> > > > 91 200Q
> > > > 99 A6Q
> > > > 93 90
> > > > etc.
> > > > --
> > > >
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