My new turbo setup:)

Wed Sep 25 11:20:43 EDT 2002

The real mistake I did was:
Watching my lambda readout for the mixture I
found out, that I need more gas (or lesser NOS)
on a testrun above 5000 rpm.
I had the setup from the k24 with fuel jet 32 and NOS 75
and a elevatet general fuel pressure.
I changed to a bigger fuel jet instead of backing off and start
from the bottom with small jets in the nozzle 25 - 50 Hp.
Adding fuel = adding Hp. The NOS is only for
burning the fuel - if the mixture is correct.
The general fuelpressure were lower..

As it was on my first real run with the bigger Garrett and
I blow before  finishing line, I can't tell if it was an
overload (better times than before) or a misfire.

But I have had misfires before at a shift
blowing the ISV-hose (closed throttle).
I use original ignition with the F5DPOR projected tip
platin plugs

Plans: Installing an engine management system I am able
to program myselves either on my WR engine or on
my 3B rebuild (with stronger rods) into the Urq.
I have another 3B engine waiting for a general overhaul to
put into to the 200 20Vq Avant as a daily driving and
IA stage III.

Claus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Olson" <project20vt at yahoo.com>
To: "Claus Vegener" <vegener at post7.tele.dk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: My new turbo setup:)

> That's very interesting. I was thinking of running a
> 100 shot once I get everything together . Maybe I'll
> put that on hold until I get a built motor.
>
> Justin
> --- Claus Vegener <vegener at post7.tele.dk> wrote:
> > I have a story about bent rods on my 3B
> > Running IA Stage V claimed for 420 Hp messured to
> > 370 Hp with a Garrett T04/50 turbo,
> > RS2 Injectors and MAF, IA chips and 3 Bar
> > boostsensor.
> > IA Manifold
> > The 370 were at 6000 rpm because I run into
> > overboost due to a
> > chip error? 470 NM @ 3900
> > Well
> > I had former run NOS on a K24 with the above setup
> > except for the
> > turbo with mecanical wg-spring load 2.4 Bar Abs and
> > estimated 300 Hp.
> > + NOS 125 Hp runs just fine and faster than the
> > Garrett alone.
> > After remounting the Garrett after a failure I
> > reduced the WG-load
> > to 2.2 Bar and estimated 320 Hp
> > (bigger turbo less thermical waste)
> > First time running NOS 125 Hp I had
> > a) a misfire stretching out the MM-hose and moving
> > the IC
> > 1" forvard and the explosion opened the IC and made
> > a melting of the
> > grill from the innnerside.
> > b) oil are dripping out above/back the crossmember.
> > The flames blow out again by the speedwind (150
> > Km/h) when it happens.
> >
> > I cant tell what came first - bending a rod or the
> > backfire -
> >
> > (So now i bought an Urq 83 with WR engine to use for
> > race and have to restore
> > my 20Vq Avant)
> >
> > Claus
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Justin Olson" <project20vt at yahoo.com>
> > To: "200 20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:07 AM
> > Subject: RE: My new turbo setup:)
> >
> >
> > > I've checked out IA's site. His hp claims are
> > > impressive, but seem to be estimates to me. I'd
> > really
> > > like to see some dyno charts from his 510hp car.
> > When
> > > I actually break my transmission, I'll go looking
> > for
> > > strong pieces.
> > >
> > > If I remember correctly there was a 20vt in a red
> > 5kq.
> > > It was reported to be putting down 500whp at 30psi
> > out
> > > of a 20q mitsu turbo. This was a stock bottom end
> > that
> > > finally let the rods go at 575+hp. He eventually
> > blew
> > > out second gear trying to drag race a viper but
> > that's
> > > a lot more power then I'll be making any time
> > soon.
> > > I'll probably go looking for heavy duty straight
> > cut
> > > gears when I'm making big power on race gas.
> > >
> > > Btw,
> > > I'm putting together a web page at:
> > > www.angelfire.com/ak4/eurocar/20vt.html
> > > It is just pics now but I'll document the progress
> > on
> > > my car there.
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Justin O
> > > --- wanemardo at attbi.com wrote:
> > > > If you haven't already, suggest you peruse Ned's
> > > > website
> > > > and read the details on his project car.
> > > > Seems I remember Ned's experience above 425hp,
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > breaking driveline components in his "Beast"
> > type 44
> > > > w/
> > > > 20v+ powerplant.
> > > > His latest project car was bending rods per his
> > > > webpage
> > > > notes,("Horsepower:510 (reduced to 430 hp now as
> > > > higher
> > > > hp bent stock rods") and this was in his lighter
> > > > car.
> > > > Likely he's has remedied the problem by now.
> > > > At least he has BTDT.
> > > > Just a thought to ponder....per your original
> > > > question.
> > > > > I'm planning on having a extra 4kq tranny as a
> > > > spare.
> > > > > I doubt I'll have many problems as long as I
> > don't
> > > > get
> > > > > crazy at the drag strip.
> > > > > --- Phil Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > > > > > At 5:13 PM +0100 9/24/02, davidb01 wrote:
> > > > > > >....up rated clutch assy  /  other
> > driveline
> > > > > > comps??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, on earlier (lower HP) Audis, the 5-spd
> > > > tranny
> > > > > > was regarded as
> > > > > > "bulletproof". With the '91 200q 20v at
> > 217-260
> > > > HP,
> > > > > > we know the tranny is
> > > > > > anything _but_ bulletproof. At 400+ HP I
> > think
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > wanna have a spare 016
> > > > > > (or two) in my parts bin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: 200q20v-admin at audifans.com
> > > > > > [mailto:200q20v-admin at audifans.com]  On
> > > > > > >Behalf Of Justin Olson
> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:06 PM
> > > > > > >To: 200 20v
> > > > > > >Subject: My new turbo setup:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I'm now working on my new turbo setup for
> > my 91
> > > > > > 20v. I
> > > > > > >sold all the factory stuff and now I'm out
> > for
> > > > > > blood.
> > > > > > >Here are the details:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-T04e 60 trim compressor
> > > > > > >-T3 Stage 5 turbine .82 a/r
> > > > > > >-Custom 5 into 1 weld el header
> > > > > > >-3" ss turbo back
> > > > > > >-3" inlet with large K&N
> > > > > > >-2.5" aluminum boost tubes
> > > > > > >-Forge Motorsports 17" * 17" * 3.5"
> > horizontal
> > > > flow
> > > > > > >intercooler
> > > > > > >-Custom Intake Manifold w/ symetry
> > > > > > >-65mm throttle body
> > > > > > >-Custom Maf housing
> > > > > > >-440cc RC injectors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >This setup is good for 500-550hp. It will
> > be a
> > > > bit
> > > > > > >laggy but you must wait for great things:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >What do you guys think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > Phil Rose
> >
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