[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I went with these, they are new. So far not too bad, a little noisy while in a turn, haven't tried in the snow yet. http://www.nokian.com/nokian_wr_en.[1]html[2] ===References:=== 1. http://www.nokian.com/nokian_wr_en.html 2. http://www.nokian.com/nokian_wr_en.html