Bose System Power Relay Location

Bernie Benz b.benz at charter.net
Sun Dec 14 09:29:59 EST 2003


Ingo, I've not been seriously following this thread but while you're in
there and if you haven't already done so, change the power source to the
head unit such that the + is not always on.  Here is my post to this effect
of many years ago.

> Bernie Benz wrote:
> 
>> There is but one best source for key controled, switched power to head
>> units!  Audi has finely wised up on their later cars and tapped the same
>> source.  This source will give power on when the key turns the Ign. on, and
>> will not turn it off until the key is removed from the Ign. lock cylinder!
>> Great feature!
>> 
>> The source is terminal 86s on the Ign. switch, but this is not the easiest
>> point to reach it.  This red lead goes to the Seat Belt Warning Control
>> Unit, term 85 and to the Interior Lite Delay Control Unit, term 86s.  Both
>> of these relays are located on the aux. relay panel, above the driver's foot
>> well. Pull one of these relays, Pop the socket out the back of the panel and
>> it will hang down where you can see to tap the red wire.
>> 
>> Bernie
 

> From: "Ingo Rautenberg" <IRautenberg at comcast.net>
> 
> Re: Bose System Power Relay LocationThanks, Dave.
> 
> Yep, it would appear that the red with yellow (or orange) stripe wire is the
> positive power wire that supplies all the Bose amps.  Tomorrow I'll be
> snipping away (yeah!) and finally doing the install.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol, Dave, and Zach Weiss
> To: 'Ingo Rautenberg' ; '200q20V list' ; 'V8 List'
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 12:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Bose System Power Relay Location
> 
> 
> Ingo,
> 
> 
> 
> Good detective work.  I don't see anything like that in the diagram.  You've
> got the right idea-when it comes to wiring, the diagram is a good place to
> start.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ingo Rautenberg [mailto:IRautenberg at comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:50 PM
> To: 200q20V list; V8 List; Carol, Dave, and Zach Weiss
> Subject: Re: Bose System Power Relay Location
> 
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> 
> No need.  Yes, I'd found it in the meantime and found something else that is
> interesting (thanks for pointing out where it is in the manual, Dave).  After
> removing the relay and hooking up the voltmeter, it would still show 11.5+
> volts (even with battery disconnected).  So I knew there had to be a capacitor
> somewhere -- and there is (was):  The free area of the Distribution adaptors
> at the bottom of the footwell auxiliary relay housing.  No mention in ETKA of
> the part number (not known), but it's a choke (PN# 443 903 547 A) with
> attached capacitor that is attached to a red three-prong plug and has three
> wires going to it:  Red w/orange stripe, red w/ black stripe and brown.  If I
> plugged in a Bose speaker amp, it would drain the capacitor.  If not, the
> capacitor would hold it's charge.  As to whether the capacitor is used for
> anything else, I don't know.  If I'm reading the unit correctly, it's rated at
> 12 A (max 20 A / 2min).  Wonder if it's also use din the 200...
> 
> 
> 
> Ingo
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Carol, Dave, and Zach Weiss
> 
> To: 'Ingo Rautenberg' ; V8 List
> 
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:01 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: Bose System Power Relay Location
> 
> 
> 
> Ingo wrote:
> 
>>> 
> 
> See Bentley for the 200 on page 91.23  It talks about Speaker Relay, J225
> 
> with a drawing that shows (apparently) the general area this Relay should be
> 
> (at least for the 200).  Besides the thorough wire wrapping job, everything
> 
> is tucked in soo close  I feel I really have to tear apart much of the sound
> 
> deadening material, unscrew numerous brackets, etc.
> 
> This appears to be entirely skipped in the V8 Audi shop manual (at least the
> 
> 1990 version).
> 
> <<
> 
> Speaker Relay J225 is 19 on Auxiliary Relay Box II, red relay socket.  See
> manual page 97-60-2.  Aux relays (right footwell) are shown on page 97-40-1.
> This relay is also listed on Service Pub. 89-1 V-8 Main Wiring Diagram, page 2
> of 82 (was in my bound manual).  The relay is on current tracks 753 and 754.
> I haven't gone down to the garage to verify the manual, though.
> 
> Dave Weiss
> 
> V8 5-speed
> 
> 
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