Adding a topic- I have a 91 200TQ 20V

[Jobe Tichy]

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Bill:

Your friend seems to be on to something here....I would do the same thing.
Just start with replacing the cap and rotor (cheapest route) and see if it
starts. At the end of the day, what damage was done has been done and I don't
think that just replacing those parts and trying to start will aggravate any
further damage, if any at all.  Make sure you use the correct rotor part for
the 20v turbo.

JOBE
>From: "Gaballah, Bill"
>To: "'200q20v at audifans.com'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Subject: Adding a topic- I have a 91 200TQ 20V
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:26:44 -0500
>
>Recently I was driving and the car just died. I assumed it was the fuel
>pump since it has never been replaced. the car has 137K. the timing chain
>was replaced at 100K. Had is towed to the dealer and the dealer states he
>removed the distributor to see why it wasn't getting any spark and found out
>that the rotor was in pieces. The dealer suggests 12 hours in labor to
>tear it down and check for further damage to the head etc. he said best
>case they would just replace the rotor and distributor spark plugs and
>possible timing belt and worst case in addition to 12 hours labor I would
>have to repair the head etc. best case $2K worst $3500 or more.) Can
>anyone offer advice at this point?? I love the car, but I don't want to put
>$2k into it. One of my friends said that if the rotor has never been
>replaced it is possible that you could just replace the rotor and the cap
>and see what happens. This would be the cheapest option and this is
>something they would have to do regardless. Please advise. thanks
>
>Bill
>
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>Message: 1
>Subject: RE: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:23:05 -0700
>From: "Brian Link"
>To: , <200q20v at audifans.com>
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>Steve,
>That's crazy, Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
>my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
>have a Bentley manual?
>If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
>the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash. Mine
>turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
>the switch. To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
>remove the steering wheel and steering column. It is kind of a huge
>pain. I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
>keys. I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
>my keys. If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
>painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.
>
>Good Luck
>
>Brian Link
>Boulder, CO
>-
>-From: "Steve Gronback"
>-To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
>-Subject: ignition switch
>-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
>-
>-The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend. My wife was using
>the
>-car, unfortunately for her. The key spins freely, and current is on,
>even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
>-
>-Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
>-
>-BTW, you have to love AAA. They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
>$26. out of pocket. For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
>-
>-Thanks,
>-Steve
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:51:58 -0700
>From: Charles Baer
>Organization: Istari Technologies
>To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>Cc: Brian Link , tgsgronback at mindspring.com
>Subject: Re: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs
>
>I bought the dealer assembly and switch to do this a few months ago
>after a ham-fisted car wash gang forced my switch and broke it. Brian
>made a good move finding an older part, the new rotator tab piece is
>slightly different and won't fit older cylinder assemblies.
>
>I did find a source for the black security cap so I cut the old one
>off and rekeyed the new cylinder to match the other locks. If you
>choose that route, be careful not to cut the retaining circlip when
>you cut off the cap. This is where I bought the cap:
>
> Andrew's Wholesale Lock Supply
> 544 South 9th. Street, Lebanon, PA 17042
> 800-544-0519 - 717-274-8659 (FAX)
> E-Mail: sales at andrewslock.com
>
>The PDFs on their site showed P-31-609 for a 91, but it turned out
>that mine was a P-31-610 ( 91> V8s, 92> 100s & urS ). The 609 has
>a rounded surround while the 610 has a flat face around the keyhole.
>
>Charlie
>
>Brian Link wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> > That's crazy, Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
> > my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
> > have a Bentley manual?
> > If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
> > the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash. Mine
> > turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
> > the switch. To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
> > remove the steering wheel and steering column. It is kind of a huge
> > pain. I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
> > keys. I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
> > my keys. If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
> > painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > Brian Link
> > Boulder, CO
> > -
> > -From: "Steve Gronback"
> > -To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > -Subject: ignition switch
> > -Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
> > -
> > -The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend. My wife was using
> > the
> > -car, unfortunately for her. The key spins freely, and current is on,
> > even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
> > -
> > -Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
> > -
> > -BTW, you have to love AAA. They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
> > $26. out of pocket. For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
> > -
> > -Thanks,
> > -Steve
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