20v Cap and rotor Q&A

[Peter Schulz]

Bernie:

its a similar part as a muffler bushing
or is it a muffler bearing?
;^)

-Peter

I agree with your advice to find a better mechanic...
there was a recent thread on the s-car list about a dealership in CT that botched a timing belt job, then tried to deny it.
Of course this then led to lawyers getting involved.


At 01:18 PM 1/14/2003 -0800, Bernie Benz wrote:
>Get smart, Bill!  Find a good independent Audi wrench.
>
>If he knows that the timing belt is loose he has removed the cover and could
>inspect the belt.  What is a rotor button?
>
>Bernie
>
>> From: "Gaballah, Bill" <bgaballah at kpmg.com>
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:42:29 -0500
>> To: "'SuffolkD at aol.com'" <SuffolkD at aol.com>, 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Cc: bimmer_dude at hotmail.com
>> Subject: RE: 20v Cap and rotor Q&A
>>
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>> These guys are pieces of work (audi of Alexandria, VA).  Now the technician
>> calls me back and says its the rotor button and that the rotor did not
>> explode.  He said that the rotor button quits spinning and the timing belt
>> is loose which suggests that some teeth are missing and the engine is out of
>> time. In which case there would be head damage due to it being an
>> interference engine.  Total tear down could be 25 hours labor!!!!   Anyone
>> interested in a beautiful car.....$1000. 91 Audi 200 Quattro turbo sedan 20V
>> only 1600 made.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SuffolkD at aol.com [mailto:SuffolkD at aol.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:05 PM
>> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Cc: bgaballah at kpmg.com; bimmer_dude at hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: 20v Cap and rotor Q&A
>>
>>
>> AFAIK:
>> The distributor for the 20V (3B) is specific (as referenced below) and hard
>> to get, so double check you get the correct distributor not a 10V (MC)
>> maybe these are correct: 10V (MC): 035 905 206 AF
>> 20V (3B): 034 905 205 Q
>> most other BTDT listers here will chime in with their experience.
>> It seems that the rotor under the cap (only one -rotor- listed 052 905 225C
>> but there is discussion about two, the narrower - rotor - being correct)
>>
>> It seems however, that the post of yours talks about going into the motor
>> which leads me to think that the STEALER is soaking you for 12 hours of
>> labor, OR THAT the gear at the bottom of the distributor (plastic?), in the
>> motor, has broken.
>> If that's the case if could be a true 12 hour process just to open the motor
>> head to look around.
>>
>> While I'm not experienced in that department, you may want to consider that
>> (Derek?) listers have had metal gears made for the bottom of there
>> distributors.
>>
>> If your a risk taker, go cap/rotor and new distributor after trying to shop
>> vac the plastic out of the distributor hole.  Then run a new one
>> (distributor - best w/metal gear you sourced) to see if you escape the 12
>> hours labor.
>>
>> I'd recommend getting all the broken pieces out first.  Local wrench maybe?
>> Tell us what happens.  This info can be superceeded by a more knowledgeable
>> BTDT lister.
>> HTH -Scott in BOSTON
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> dealer states he
>> removed the distributor to see why it wasn't getting any spark and found out
>>
>> that the rotor was in pieces.  The dealer suggests 12 hours in labor to
>> tear it down and check for further damage to the head etc
>>
>> Message: 4
>> From: "Jobe Tichy" <bimmer_dude at hotmail.com
>> Your friend seems to be on to something here....I would do the same thing.
>> Just start with replacing the cap and rotor (cheapest route) and see if it
>> starts. At the end of the day, what damage was done has been done and I
>> don't
>> think that just replacing those parts and trying to start will aggravate any
>>
>> further damage, if any at all.  Make sure you use the correct rotor part for
>>
>> the 20v turbo.
>>
>>
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Peter Schulz
1990 CQ
1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica
1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey
Chelmsford, MA USA
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