2 Bennett camber plates

[Patrick Anderson]

I too am not a fan of the shperical bearing setup as I heard it was prone to
wearing out quickly. However, I believe they may have changed their design
and are no longer using that setup, but I am not 100% sure.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
To: "Steven Hauptmann" <hauptmanns at llr.sc.gov>
Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: 2 Bennett camber plates


> If 2B has replaced the elastormeric strut top isolator with a hard
spherical
> bushing to achieve strut angular movement at the tower interface, IMO the
> result is only suitable for race/track, not street.  I believe that they
> also went to a small diameter coil spring to gain strut freedom within the
> confinement of the tower.  A noisy, not for street design!
>
> Bernie
>
> > From: Steven Hauptmann <hauptmanns at llr.sc.gov>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:05:27 -0400
> > To: 'Patrick Anderson' <ptanders at attbi.com>
> > Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
> > Subject: RE: 2 Bennett camber plates
> >
> > FYI
> > I understand that the 2 Bennett plates which use a spherical bushing,
have
> > some SERIOUS road noise issues that may not be acceptable for many
street
> > users.
> >
> > I hope the ECS problem you speak of is isolated. I'll let you know as I
> > already own them but have yet to do the install.
> >
> > Steve Hauptmann
> > South Carolina
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Anderson [mailto:ptanders at attbi.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:58 PM
> > To: Steven Hauptmann; 'ben swann'
> > Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: (no subject)
> >
> >
> > I have heard from one reliable source that the 2Bennett camber plates,
while
> > more expensive, are definately worth the extra dough$$$. Apparently the
ECS
> > camber plates are prone to a problem. Some experience binding at/near
full
> > steering lock either way. ECS's solution...loosen the top strut nut!!! I
> > think not. Just my two cents (well not really as I learned this from
> > somebody else).
> >
> > Patrick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Hauptmann" <hauptmanns at llr.sc.gov>
> > To: "'ben swann'" <benswann at comcast.net>
> > Cc: <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:26 AM
> > Subject: (no subject)
> >
> >
> >> Ben,
> >>
> >> <<What is the source of the camber plates?>>
> >>
> >> I got the camber plates from ECS tuning.
> >> http://www.ecstuning.com/s4s6camberplatespage.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> <<Is the only problem alignment/tire wear?  How does it effect
handling?>>
> >>
> >> Seems too much negative camber effects tire wear and straight line
> > behavior
> >> at speed. Not sure beyond that.
> >>
> >>
> >> <<How far out of spec is it?  >>
> >>
> >> My camber was neg 1.7 on the drivers side and neg 0.4 on the passenger
> > side.
> >> From what I gather from other listers, many cars (but not all) cannot
have
> >> the alignment set to acceptable camber limits when they are lowered, ie
> > H&R
> >> springs, due to too much negative camber. So in an attempt to correct
> > this,
> >> and introduce more positive camber, I'm going to install the ECS camber
> >> plates.
> >> To install them on a type 44 (they were actually designed for the C4
> > chassis
> >> cars, ECS modified spring perches must be used as well as the C4 strut
> >> bearings and strut mounts.
> >>
> >>
> >> <<Can the camber plates be installed after I do all of the strut work,
> >> without removing the assemblies a second time?>>
> >>
> >> I have not even looked at the plates yet, but from what I understand
the
> >> strut will have to be removed from the car. I believe the only part of
> > this
> >> that can be replaced from up top is the strut mount.
> >>
> >> The positive side to deciding to wait and do all this at once is that
the
> > C4
> >> strut mounts are considerably cheaper than the ones for the 200q20v (if
> > you
> >> thought of replacing them) and the bearings cost the about the same as
> > those
> >> for our cars(of course this assumes you were planning to replace your
old
> >> bearings rather than cleaning and regreasing). I sourced the parts from
> > Rod
> >> at TPC, strut mounts for $32 each, and the strut bearings were $11
each.
> >>
> >>
> >> <<Oh - what are you running in the rear.>>
> >>
> >> I have H&R springs and Bilstein sport on both front and rear.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Steve Hauptmann
> >> South Carolina
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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