200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1511 - 8 msgs
Dr. Adam Gratz
dradamgratz at hotmail.com
Sat May 17 19:18:49 EDT 2003
Ben -
www.thepartsbin.com has them @ $240 a piece with free shipping.
But first, check this out
http://www.bira.org/
A bolt on big brake conversion that makes me wish I'd kept my UFO struts
(damn!)
Adam-
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>Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:00:10 -0400
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> 1. Re: Front end noise (Mike Miller)
> 2. Custom Steering Wheels (Mike Del Tergo)
> 3. UFOs - Best Price? (ben swann)
> 4. Parking Brake Cable Adjust (DANIEL FORBING)
> 5. Re: Parking Brake Cable Adjust (Peter Schulz)
> 6. Re: Parking Brake Cable Adjust (Phil and Judy Rose)
> 7. Diagnostics connector pinout for VAG-COM (ben swann)
> 8. Fw: Parking Brake Cable Adjust (motogo1)
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>Message: 1
>From: "Mike Miller" <mikemilr at blackfoot.net>
>To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Subject: Re: Front end noise
>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:46:01 -0600
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ben swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
>To: <motogo1 at cox.net>
>Cc: <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:06 PM
>Subject: Front end noise
>
>
> >
> > Sounds like the same problem I described happening on mine. The noise
> > volume comes and goes, but is always there.
> >
> > Since you describe yours happening more when turning right vs. mine
> > when bearing to the left, I would put odds on the left wheel bearing.
> > Mine I think is the right one.
> >
> > Unless, there is something else that produces this kind of noise than
> > the bearings. Sounds kind of like an airplane, and on some surfaces
> > like a helicopter, no?
> >
> > Ben
>
>Mine is making a noise when applying power - sounds related to wheel
>speed.
>No sound when coasting. CV joint was my first thought but it checks out
>good. I would think wheel bearing or tire would always make the noise.
>Noise
>very noticeable at freeway speeds. Occasional vibration in the steering
>wheel also. Any ideas?
>
>mike miller
>
>
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>Message: 2
>From: "Mike Del Tergo" <mdeltergo at hotmail.com>
>To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>Subject: Custom Steering Wheels
>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:46:11 +0000
>
>Has any put an aftermarket Swheel on their 200? I was looking for a MOMO
>type hub adapter.
>Most of the ones I've seen, supposedly for our cars still have the contact
>spring "button" on the
>hub, (expecting a contact ring on the column) while our 200 have the
>buttins
>on the column, and the contact ring on the wheel. basically backwards of
>the
>5000.Any BTDT'd apprciated.
>thx
>Mike
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:05:41 -0400
>From: ben swann <benswann at comcast.net>
>Subject: UFOs - Best Price?
>To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>I'm looking for who has the most affordable source for front rotors
>for '91 200 20V turbo quattro of course.
>
>I'd be open to a gently used set that is not rusted or warped.
>
>Ben
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
>From: DANIEL FORBING <forbing at prodigy.net>
>Subject: Parking Brake Cable Adjust
>To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>Phil, The ebrake mechanism must index with the brake piston when the pedal
>=
>is pushed after the basic setting (?) Anyway, on returning from a short
>tri=
>p Sunday night I smelled hot brake material and, sure enough, I had been
>dr=
>agging the rear pads around. Tonite I was able to get back under the car
>to=
> find that the cams were not totally returning to their stops. I worked
>the=
>m back and forth with WD-40 and a bar without much success. Next I'll try
>t=
>he Ford springs and then either rebuild or buy new calipers. In the
>meantim=
>e the crowbar and flashlight will go into the trunk in case I actually
>need=
> to set the ebrake here in fairly flat Northertn Indiana. Thanks to you
>and=
> the other listers for the help. Dan Forbing
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 08:54:17 -0400
>To: DANIEL FORBING <forbing at prodigy.net>
>From: Peter Schulz <peschulz at cisco.com>
>Subject: Re: Parking Brake Cable Adjust
>Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>Daniel:
>
>You should do the following at a minimum:
>
>Car wheel chocked, jack up and support the rear of the car, remove wheel.
>Carefully remove the return spring from the caliper with pliers.
>remove the 10 mm spring retaining bolt from the calipers.
>Using a flat bladed screw driver, carefully work the ebrake mechanism away
>=
>from the caliper so that about a 1/2 inch of the shaft is exposed
>clean and polish the shaft with emory paper, and then either work some
>rust=
> penetrant (PB Blaster, Wuerth Rost off, Kroil,) etc into the mechanism.
>let dry
>work the cam mechanism back and forth to the stops
>put some high temp, caliper grease on the shaft and push it back into the
>c=
>aliper.
>at this point the mechanism has probably extended the caliper mechanism ,
>s=
>o you may have to remove the caliper from the carrier
>(two 13mm caliper slider bolts with thin 15mm nuts ( either use a 15mm
>bicy=
>cle cone wrench, thin open ended wrench, or grind down a cheap one)
>support the caliper body use wire, zip tie, etc from the spring or strut
>(D=
>O NOT LET IT HANG ONLY BY THE BRAKE HOSE)
>remove the caliper and pads from the carrier, turn the caliper piston
>clock=
>wise to retract it into the caliper.
>
>Reassembly is reverse of removal.
>
>This is only a stop gap prior to completely rebuilding (really just
>cleanin=
>g and regreasing) the caliper and ebrake mechanism.
>
>HTH
>-Peter
>
>ps> internal caliper components can be seen at:
>http://users.rcn.com/peter-s/caliperpage.htm
>
>
>
>At 08:09 PM 5/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >Phil, The ebrake mechanism must index with the brake piston when the
>pedal=
> is pushed after the basic setting (?) Anyway, on returning from a short
>tr=
>ip Sunday night I smelled hot brake material and, sure enough, I had been
>d=
>ragging the rear pads around. Tonite I was able to get back under the car
>t=
>o find that the cams were not totally returning to their stops. I worked
>th=
>em back and forth with WD-40 and a bar without much success. Next I'll try
>=
>the Ford springs and then either rebuild or buy new calipers. In the
>meanti=
>me the crowbar and flashlight will go into the trunk in case I actually
>nee=
>d to set the ebrake here in fairly flat Northertn Indiana. Thanks to you
>an=
>d the other listers for the help. Dan Forbing
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>
>
>Peter C. Schulz peschulz at cisco.com
>Quality Systems Engineer/SSE http://www.cisco.com
>Customer Contact Business Unit (CCBU) Direct: 978.936.1855
>Cisco Systems, Inc. Fax: 978.
>500 Beaver Brook Rd (location)
>1414 Mass Ave (mail delivery) Pager: 888.642.0939
>Boxborough, MA 01719 USA
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:31:49 -0400
>To: DANIEL FORBING <forbing at prodigy.net>
>From: Phil and Judy Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: Parking Brake Cable Adjust
>Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>At 8:09 PM -0700 5/12/03, DANIEL FORBING wrote:
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >Phil, The ebrake mechanism must index with the brake piston when the
> >pedal is pushed after the basic setting (?)
>
>Dan,
>I'm glad you have a question mark after that, because I'm not sure
>what it means either. :-)
>Your previous posting induced me to take a look at the the
>proportioning valve setup on my car. It seemed to be set OK; I noted
>in the Bentley that the proportioning valves phased in during "later
>production" are meant to be set with a 9mm (approx 11/32"-3/8")
>spacing, rather than 7 mm. Since our cars are at the tail-end of the
>model years covered in that manual, I assume the 9mm spec applies to
>us (or at least the later build dates in our model), and in fact that
>was the setting I found.
>
> > Anyway, on returning from a short trip Sunday night I smelled hot
> >brake material and, sure enough, I had been dragging the rear pads
> >around. Tonite I was able to get back under the car to find that the
> >cams were not totally returning to their stops. I worked them back
> >and forth with WD-40 and a bar without much success. Next I'll try
> >the Ford springs and then either rebuild or buy new calipers.
>
>That may do it, although I'd recommend you first verify that the
>brake cables are in good condition. A few years ago I started to have
>problems with incomplete release of the ebrake --they dragged and
>then would fully release after driving a few miles. I asked the
>technician to verify the condition of the cables. He reported the
>cables "seem to be OK". So, I decided to replace the rear calipers
>(with new, not rebuilt) and discovered that there was little or no
>improvement in the ebrake release. Now I will replace the cables
>(much cheaper than calipers), as I should have done to begin with.
>
>BTW, please let us know if you locate a source for the Ford springs.
>
>Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In the meantime the crowbar and flashlight will go into the trunk
> >in case I actually need to set the ebrake here in fairly flat
> >Northertn Indiana. Thanks to you and the other listers for the help.
> >Dan Forbing
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>--
>*********************************
>* Phil & Judy Rose Rochester, NY *
>* mailto:pjrose at frontiernet.net *
>*********************************
>
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:29:50 -0400
>From: ben swann <benswann at comcast.net>
>Subject: Diagnostics connector pinout for VAG-COM
>To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
>Can someone provide me with the pinout (or link to) for the pinout for
>VAG-COM diagnostics connector(s)? In particular for the 200Q20v which
>I assume is different than the OBD connector.
>
>TIA
>
>Ben
>
>
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>Message: 8
>From: "motogo1" <motogo1 at cox.net>
>To: "Audi 200" <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Subject: Fw: Parking Brake Cable Adjust
>Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 10:46:41 -0400
>
>And if you do decide to change it, there is a retaining clip and housing
>that the cable runs through on the side of the tunnel. This clip most
>likely
>will be rusted and a bitch to get out. I recommend buying a new one before
>you start, so you get an idea of how to go about removing it.
>
>Gary
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "motogo1" <motogo1 at cox.net>
>To: "Audi 200" <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Parking Brake Cable Adjust
>
>
> > I'd also recommend checking the brake cable. Remove it from the caliper
> > actuating arm and see how easily it moves. On both my 94 S4 and on the
>200,
> > the brake cables on the right side (passenger) needed replacing. IIRC
>both
> > outer cable housings were broken near or under the cable support near
>the
> > back end where they make a 90 degree bend. That along with the
>maintenance
> > on the actuating arm solved the problem.
> >
> > Gary Martin
> > 94 UrS4
> > 91 200 TQA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil and Judy Rose" <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
> > >
> > > That may do it, although I'd recommend you first verify that the
> > > brake cables are in good condition.
> >
>
>
>
>
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