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not the rotor, was in pieces, which he should have been able to determine
without removing the dist.  Short of a gear piece getting caught under a cam
lobe and stripping the timing belt before the engine stopped, you have
caused no damage to the engine.  Replace the distributor, or find a lister
willing to sell a replacement metal dist gear from the GB.

Bernie.

> From: "Gaballah, Bill" <bgaballah at kpmg.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:26:44 -0500
> To: "'200q20v at audifans.com'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: Adding a topic- I have a 91 200TQ 20V
>
> Recently I was driving and the car just died.  I assumed it was the fuel
> pump since it has never been replaced. the car has 137K.  the timing chain
> was replaced at 100K.  Had is towed to the dealer and the dealer states he
> removed the distributor to see why it wasn't getting any spark and found out
> that the rotor was  in pieces.  The dealer suggests 12 hours in labor to
> tear it down and check for further damage to the head etc.  he said best
> case they would just replace the rotor and distributor spark plugs and
> possible timing belt and worst case in addition to 12 hours labor I would
> have to repair the head etc.  best case $2K worst $3500 or more.)  Can
> anyone offer advice at this point?? I love the car, but I don't want to put
> $2k into it.  One of my friends said that if the rotor has never been
> replaced it is possible that you could just replace the rotor and the cap
> and see what happens.  This would be the cheapest option and this is
> something they would have to do regardless.  Please advise.  thanks
>
> Bill
>
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> Message: 1
> Subject: RE: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:23:05 -0700
> From: "Brian Link" <BrianL at starsys.com>
> To: <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>, <200q20v at audifans.com>
>
> Steve,
> That's crazy,  Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
> my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
> have a Bentley manual?
> If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
> the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash.  Mine
> turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
> the switch.  To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
> remove the steering wheel and steering column.  It is kind of a huge
> pain.  I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
> keys.  I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
> my keys.  If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
> painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Brian Link
> Boulder, CO
> -
> -From: "Steve Gronback" <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>
> -To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
> -Subject: ignition switch
> -Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
> -
> -The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend.   My wife was using
> the
> -car, unfortunately for her.  The key spins freely, and current is on,
> even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
> -
> -Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
> -
> -BTW, you have to love AAA.  They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
> $26. out of pocket.  For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
> -
> -Thanks,
> -Steve
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:51:58 -0700
> From: Charles Baer <charlie at istari.com>
> Organization: Istari Technologies
> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Cc: Brian Link <BrianL at starsys.com>, tgsgronback at mindspring.com
> Subject: Re: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs
>
> I bought the dealer assembly and switch to do this a few months ago
> after a ham-fisted car wash gang forced my switch and broke it. Brian
> made a good move finding an older part, the new rotator tab piece is
> slightly different and won't fit older cylinder assemblies.
>
> I did find a source for the black security cap so I cut the old one
> off and rekeyed the new cylinder to match the other locks.  If you
> choose that route, be careful not to cut the retaining circlip when
> you cut off the cap.  This is where I bought the cap:
>
> Andrew's Wholesale Lock Supply
> 544 South 9th. Street, Lebanon, PA 17042
> 800-544-0519 - 717-274-8659 (FAX)
> E-Mail: sales at andrewslock.com
>
> The PDFs on their site showed P-31-609 for a 91, but it turned out
> that mine was a P-31-610 ( 91> V8s, 92> 100s & urS ).  The 609 has
> a rounded surround while the 610 has a flat face around the keyhole.
>
> Charlie
>
> Brian Link wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>> That's crazy,  Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
>> my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
>> have a Bentley manual?
>> If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
>> the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash.  Mine
>> turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
>> the switch.  To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
>> remove the steering wheel and steering column.  It is kind of a huge
>> pain.  I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
>> keys.  I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
>> my keys.  If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
>> painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.
>>
>> Good Luck
>>
>> Brian Link
>> Boulder, CO
>> -
>> -From: "Steve Gronback" <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>
>> -To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> -Subject: ignition switch
>> -Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
>> -
>> -The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend.   My wife was using
>> the
>> -car, unfortunately for her.  The key spins freely, and current is on,
>> even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
>> -
>> -Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
>> -
>> -BTW, you have to love AAA.  They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
>> $26. out of pocket.  For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
>> -
>> -Thanks,
>> -Steve
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