NAC -- New York State Geography Primer

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P.S. Please don't be insulted, we don't even consider Poughkeepsie as 
"upstate".
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Phil Rose
Rochester, NY
mailto:pjrose at frontiernet.net
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Phil,

In my youth, my parents sold many weekend and vacation homes to 
self-proclaimed "Real New Yorkers" (those from the city, that is). To them, "Upstate" is 
anywhere north of where the subways run.  Rochester is in Canada.

-- Tom Werner
Native of Copake, NY (about 40 miles more upstate than Poughkeepsie)