Dave- Which Nokians have you used? I'm running NRW-H and I like them a lot, although they are too wide in deep snow as the smallest size they have in 17" is 225/45. I'll second the recommendation of Dunlop Wintersport M2s, with the caveat that they need to be replaced every 3 seasons at a minimum- they're about as good as all-seasons now on the A4 during its 4th season. Taka