Door won't open from inside or out

[Bernie Benz]

  Ben,

That pin can’t be glass hard!  Have you tried a quality fine toothed  
bimetal hack saw blade in a bayonet type handle? It appears that you  
would have about a 1” stroke on both the top and bottom side of the  
pin. As the blade dulls, brake off an inch and keep stroking it.

Bernie



On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Ben Swann wrote:

> If I can cut through the striker pin on the latch, I'd be on my way  
> to fixing the
> problem with the door latch.  Until then I'm stuck with a drivers  
> door I can't open, and
> the only other possibility is to resort to removing the interior  
> panel by force.
>
> I'm trying to locate a wire saw that can cut through this hardened  
> steel pin.  I believe
> they exist, but was unable to locate one locally.  This would allow  
> me to slip the wire
> saw around the pin and cut through it.
>
> Where can I obtain a diamond or carburendem wire cutting saw that  
> can cut through steel?
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Swann [mailto:benswann at verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:45 PM
> To: 'Dave Defferding'
> Cc: 'quattro at audifans.com'; '200q20v at audifans.com'
> Subject: RE: Door won't open from inside or out
>
> Well, I've tried repeatedly to lock and unlock to no avail.  Latest  
> efforts were trying
> to jummy the latch with a homemade tool - there is a little detant,  
> a catch for the
> latch I'm trying to push down and release the catch.  So far I have  
> made a few tools,
> but none work.
>
> I will try to lubricate some things tomorrow and see if that helps.
>
> Following that, I'm looking at getting one of those cable saws so I  
> can get around the
> latch pin and saw it off.  I think this is the least damage I can  
> do to get the door
> open.  Once open, I can replace the latch pin and get the panel off  
> and fix whatever is
> wrong.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Defferding [mailto:MstrBlastr at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:48 PM
> To: Ben Swann
> Subject: Re: Door won't open from inside or out
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> Almost same thing happened to me about two months ago--after I  
> replaced the
> actuator cable, which I'd been carrying around for over a year...   
> I was
> happy and proud to get it done so I got out and locked the car.  Door
> wouldn't open!!!-- neither by key or by newly operable lever from  
> inside
> car.
>
> Fate smiled on me however.  For about 15-20 minutes I repeatedly  
> did the key
> lock/unlock sequence from the outside while gently holding the  
> outside door
> latch.  It suddenly unlocked!!  I opened the door and locked/ 
> unlocked again
> while looking/listening.  I then loosened the big screws on the  
> door latch
> and wiggled it a bit, sprayed copious silicone/other lube in all  
> openings of
> the latching mechanism and gently
> tightened/tested/loosened/wiggled/tightened until it unlocked every  
> time by
> key and internal lever--then tightened good/tested while door was  
> open.
> After all that and another half hour or so I closed the door and  
> locked
> it/opened it, and it's been fine since.  It stays locked because  
> there is a
> little spring loaded cam which you can see with the door open, and  
> if that
> bugger doesn't release the door stays locked shut.  Both mechanisms  
> worked
> (key-inside lever), but that cam wasn't quite in the right spot  
> relative to
> whatever it caught on so the door stayed locked.
>
> Hope you don't do too much damage-- check the passenger side and  
> you'll see
> that cam.  I thanked God that day, oh what a sinking feeling that  
> was.  Good
> Luck!!
>
> Dave D
> '91 200Q with working driver's door lock/latch now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at verizon.net>
> To: <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Cc: <quattro at audifans.com>; <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Door won't open from inside or out
>
>
> Front driver door.  It appears the lock mechanism has come undone  
> or broken
> and neither
> manual or pneumatic actuator is unlocking it.
>
> I am trying to jimmy it open from the outside with passenger door  
> open - no
> luck yet.
>
> There is no way I see that I can get the panel off without  
> destroying it.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Huw Powell [mailto:audi at humanspeakers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:02 PM
> To: Ben Swann
> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Door won't open from inside or out
>
>> I don’t know what I did as I was replacing the window regulator – now
>> working.  I put
> it
>> all back together and panel back on.  When I went to open the  
>> door, it won’t
>> unlatch.
>> Tried it from the inside and it did the first time.  Now it won’t  
>> open
>> from inside or
>> out.  So any tricks to getting these doors open without removing the
>> panel, since you
>> need to open the door to remove the panel?
>>
>> Car is a ’91 200Q20V.
>
> Yikes, sounds like you knocked something loose or perhaps didn't get a
> connecting rod back in just right!
>
> The only suggestion I'd have is the slim-jim type approach. AAA types
> usually carry the full set with instructions for all cars, but not all
> of them are good at using the tools.
>
> Is it a rear or front door?
>
> -- 
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
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