Window regulator
George
sidman at webloq.com
Thu May 3 13:28:32 EDT 2007
I have been through driver door window regulator hell more than once. You
can restring the cable and kluge the cable fastener, but last time around, I
bought a new aftermarket regulator from Blau for around $175 and it has
worked great for more than 3 years. It is made in Italy and appears more
robust than OEM.
George Sidman
Chairman & Chief Technology Architect
WebLOQ, Inc.
2801 Monterey-Salinas Highway
Monterey, CA 93940 - Suite H
Monterey 831 372-2600 x227
Santa Clara 408 282-3548
Mobile 831 236-5380
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1. Window regulator (RGuzz)
2. Re: Window regulator (Mike Miller)
3. Re: Window regulator (Bernie Benz)
4. Re: Window regulator (Phil Rose)
5. Subject: 96 A6Q Intermittent start (c1j1miller at aol.com)
6. 200q rear subframe bushings-UPDATE (and x posted)
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7. Re: Window regulator (Enzeder)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 13:50:09 -0400
From: RGuzz <rguzz at mindspring.com>
Subject: Window regulator
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Haven't taken the panel off but the window went down (drivers side)
then crunched, I hear the motor try to bring the window up but nothing.
What's the latest on the repair for this problem? Source for
regulators? I have heard they are expensive and what is after marketed
is crap.
Thanks. Window is down all the way making it tough to drive.
Richard
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:58:33 -0600
From: "Mike Miller" <mikemilr at blackfoot.net>
Subject: Re: Window regulator
To: "Audi 200 20v Mailing List" <200q20v at audifans.com>, "RGuzz"
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Just went through this - ddin't ahve time to do it myself. Price of the new
regulator was $250.
mike
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From: RGuzz
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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: Window regulator
Haven't taken the panel off but the window went down (drivers side)
then crunched, I hear the motor try to bring the window up but nothing.
What's the latest on the repair for this problem? Source for
regulators? I have heard they are expensive and what is after marketed
is crap.
Thanks. Window is down all the way making it tough to drive.
Richard
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:13:42 -0700
From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
Subject: Re: Window regulator
To: RGuzz <rguzz at mindspring.com>
Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
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No BTDT, but if the motor is good, maybe just a cable or pulley. Take
it apart.
Bernie
On May 2, 2007, at 10:50 AM, RGuzz wrote:
> Haven't taken the panel off but the window went down (drivers side)
> then crunched, I hear the motor try to bring the window up but
> nothing.
> What's the latest on the repair for this problem? Source for
> regulators? I have heard they are expensive and what is after marketed
> is crap.
> Thanks. Window is down all the way making it tough to drive.
> Richard
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:20:32 -0400
From: Phil Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Window regulator
To: RGuzz <rguzz at mindspring.com>
Cc: Audi 200 20v Mailing List <200q20v at audifans.com>
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At 1:50 PM -0400 5/2/07, RGuzz wrote:
>Haven't taken the panel off but the window went down (drivers side)
>then crunched, I hear the motor try to bring the window up but nothing.
>What's the latest on the repair for this problem? Source for
>regulators? I have heard they are expensive and what is after marketed
>is crap.
I used an aftermarket regulator--obtained about 15 months ago from
AutoHaus Arizona. Here's what I had to say then about the
installation (and a problem with the part quality). BTW, it's been
working OK for the past year, but I avoid using that window any more
than absolutely necessary.
At 1:40 PM -0500 1/10/06, Phil Rose wrote:
>My replacement regulator (driver's window) turned out to NOT be the
>Italian (Pimax) brand stated on the Autohaus Arizona Web site. The
>regulator I received carried no visible brand or origin markings on
>it, but the box indicated a Danish manufacturer: ELECTRIX.
>Ominously, the first thing that occurred to me (seeing Denmark as
>the country of origin) was all the hardware problems that people on
>the list encountered when installing that Danish-made all-metal
>radiator. I have the highest respect for the quality of Danish
>furniture, but beginning to have some doubts regarding their metal
>products.
>
>The window regulator R&R went pretty smoothly until the very final
>instant. As many (most?) of you know, the regulator slide is
>fastened to the door shell by a pair of brackets (upper and lower)
>that each have a pair of captive nuts for attachment by two 6 mm
>bolts (2 for each bracket). The position of these
>brackets--especially the upper one) needs to be adjusted laterally
>by trial and error--to attain a good fit of the window against the
>rubber window-seal. After fidddling back and forth to get the
>window adjusted, I did the final tightening of the brackets, when
>suddenly it was obvious that one of the upper bolts had stripped out
>the nut!!!! That was NOT GOOD since there was little reason to have
>confidence that this upper end of the regulator could be held
>securely --with prolonged use--by only one tightened bolt.
>
>Naturally the stripped-out nut was the only one that was almost
>impossible to reach without completely removing the window and
>undoing all the re-assembly work we'd done. Fortunately, we found
>that there was.... just.... barely.... enough space to get a good 6
>mm nut onto the end of the bolt. I was able to grab onto the nut by
>spinning the bolt and got it tightened down firmly. Big sigh of
>relief.
>
>Other than the stripped nut (I realize I might have avoided that
>issue by extra cautious tightening, but...), there were no other
>issues with the new regulator. Seems to work smoothly...so far.
>
>Phil
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:24:28 -0400
From: c1j1miller at aol.com
Subject: Subject: 96 A6Q Intermittent start
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Cc: ehuppert at hvc.rr.com
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Eric: A typical no start issue with the 12v v6 is the Hall effect
timing sensor on the back of the driver's side head. Held in with 2
10mm bolts; not so hard to swap out. I've got a spare if you'd like to
try it out.
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Chris Miller, Bolton, MA c1j1miller at aol.com
'97 Audi A4tq, '91 coupe q, '85 4ksq, '81 VW Scirocco
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From: Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: 96 A6Q Intermittent start
To: <quattro at audifans.com>, "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Gents,
Sorry for the post here, but think the type 44 gets a tad more traffic!
Had bought, rehabbed and sold ($1k in parts) a clean 96 A6 Avant in the
fall. Was sold locally to a guy I know...
He just called and they're having a intermittent start issue.
Occasionally
car won't start (when hot), but if allowed to sit will start after a
while.
Does crank, but doesn't start. Tonight they had to let it sit for 45
minutes
before it would fire.
Going to run VAG Com tomorrow morning to and see if that shows any
codes...
don't know if it's fuel or ignition related, hopefully able to narrow it
down in the morning once he gets here!
Any BTDT's? Going to surf around and see what I can find, but figured
I'd
ask around first.
Eric
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 17:40:52 -0400
From: "Beer, Jerald S." <JBeer at caseyciklin.com>
Subject: 200q rear subframe bushings-UPDATE (and x posted)
To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
Cc: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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OK, thanks to this list, I found some bushings without having to buy a
whole new rear subframe for over $1000 USD!!
In first place was Addict Motorsports (www.addictmotorsport.com). Jason
Patek makes them for the C4 chasis. They also fit the 91 rear (and I
suspect the 89 and 90 based on Alldata). It is labelled part 1A. He
makes them in delrin and aluminum. He had alum in stock, so for about
$10 extra, he sent those overnight. Excellent service. Bushes were under
a $100 for all 8 (each opening takes two).
In second place is VAG parts (www.vagparts.com). According to Alan, he
can get them in OEM like rubber.
Hopefully this info will save someone else some wear and tear on
locating these puppies.
Thanks to all who responded!!!
Regards,
Jerry
91 200tqa
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:14:38 -0400
From: Enzeder <enzeder at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Window regulator
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I've usually had to replace the regulator. I wanted to try a repair
but found it beyond my abilities. IIRC, getting the cable out was the
hard part.
I've had good luck with used regulators (haven't bought a new
regulator yet - haven't had a used one fail yet - although I may just
be lucky), I just disassembled and relubed it. The hardest part has
been getting the door trim off the door without breaking little bits
of 17 year old brittle plastic. Take car to remember the position of
the spacers for the door frame.
At 01:50 PM 5/2/2007, RGuzz wrote:
>Haven't taken the panel off but the window went down (drivers side)
>then crunched, I hear the motor try to bring the window up but nothing.
>What's the latest on the repair for this problem? Source for
>regulators? I have heard they are expensive and what is after marketed
>is crap.
>Thanks. Window is down all the way making it tough to drive.
>Richard
>
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