New lister, new car

[Peter Schulz]

Paul:

Not that this will happen again on this car, but next time /next car 
you run into this situation, forget the easyout...

Try the Sears' "bolt out"
My first 200 had a drain bolt head that looked like warm partially 
melted butter-
Propane torch, vise grips, etc., nothing worked....finally took a 
file, filed down the sides to approximate a  bolt head,. hammered on 
a 16mm 6 point socket, and used a long breaker  bar.

The next time I ran into this situation on a new to me car, I tried 
the bolt out with a breaker bar..
Took less than 15 secs. The bolt out has fluted edges that bite into 
the sides of the bolt.

-Peter



At 09:23 AM 11/7/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>Actually Bernie I did put heat to it for a while. Propane torch may 
>not have gotten it hot enough. Still broke an easyout.
>   The pan is fairly smooth and with a copper crush washer I have 
> prevented any leakage. Also allowing me to remove it again when I 
> get my fumoto valve.
>   I used my old plug from my Urs4, saved from the fumoto valve replacement.
>
>   Paul
>
>Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net> wrote:
>   Paul didn't say that the threads were buggered up. He said that the
>plug came out easily after he ground off the plug's head, the flange
>face seal. But he may have buggered up the pan's face sealing
>surface. A simple fix for this would be to 45 degree counter sink
>the surface to accept an O-ring on a new stock plug.
>
>The better way to remove such a frozen plug is with heat. Same system
>as removing a broken stud from a head.
>Build up the buggered hex head with a TIG or MIG welder until large
>enough to get a vice grip on it. The weld heat will have loosened the
>frozen plug or stud.
>
>Bernie
>
>
>On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:58 AM, Nathan Winters wrote:
>
> > If the threads are already buggered up, what solutions are there?
> > Next size up drill / tap?
> > Go to NPT?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Kneale Brownson
> > To: Paul DAnneo
>; 200q20v at audifans.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:12:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: New lister, new car
> >
> >
> > Stock HP of the 200q20v is 217.
> >
> > Many of us have switched to Fumoto drain valves to avoid plug
> > thread
> > problems.
> >
> > There is a relay that keeps the windows/sunroof powered after you
> > turn off the key until you open a door.
> >
> > Cooling fan should go on whenever you turn the climate control to
> > Auto, which engages the A/C.
> >
> > You should get a Bentley if you're going to do any services
> > yourself.
> > If not, make sure the mechanic has one.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul DAnneo
>wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Just reciently sold my '93 Urs4 and bought a '91 200q20v. Pearl white
> > and platnum sport interior. Drivers seat torn.(need one. I'll list in
> > marketplace.)
> >
> > This car is a bit lighter than the Urs4. A bit quicker also. 250 hp,
> > correct?
> >
> > The cars been sitting for +-2yrs. I literally had to grind the head
> > off
> > the drain plug as the flange was welded to the pan. I broke 2
> > easyouts
> > before the flange was completely gone. Once the flange was gone the
> > plug came out easy. Thanks goodness for Napa's lifetime warranteed
> > tools.
> >
> > 1 bent rim(also need), 3 seperated tires. Odo reads 89k. Head gasket
> > leak to cooling system. New (now) windshield. Aftermarket pos cd
> > player.
> > All speakers still powered and sound good. Cruise doesn't work,
> > nor the
> > abs.
> >
> > Just a few q's.
> > Any fix for the bouncy speedo? Seems the computer thinks the car won't
> > go faster than 15 mph.
> >
> > The headlights inner lens; bulb is 5 watts? Just a parking light? I've
> > got a fog light switch, but seems no fog lights, front or rear.
> >
> > Power seems to always be on in the interior. Windows and sunroof
> > always
> > powered. Abbynormal? Interior lights go out normally.
> >
> > Also cooling fan goes on when the climate control system is going.
> > Turn
> > off the climate control and the cooling fan goes off. Put it on auto
> > when the car is warming up and when the heater kicks in the
> > cooling fan
> > starts. Seems quirkey.
> >
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-Peter Schulz
Chelmsford Ma, USA
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1995.5 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru
1995.5 S6 Avant Silver/Platinum
1991 200 20v Q Avant Titan Grey
1991 90 20v Q Red
1991 CQ silver  (eS2 recipient)