do you need bump stops for knois?

[Bernie Benz]

On Aug 26, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Nathan Winters wrote:

> Bernie,
>
> So when I install the Konis I should fill the strut housing with  
> antifreeze before installing a cap?
Yes, old coolent drainings will do fine.
>
> What keeps the fluid in there while driving or being displaced by  
> water over time?

Gravity and the shock retaining cap.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nathan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
> To: Nathan Winters <natewin at yahoo.com>
> Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: do you need bump stops for knois?
>
> The fluid between the strut insert and the strut housing is there for
> conductive cooling of the insert. It should be there and has no
> effect on winter damping. Antifreeze being the usual fluid.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Nathan Winters wrote:
>
>> Somewhat related:
>>
>> I'm replacing Bilsteins with Konis and dealing with this bump-stop
>> issue as well.  I don't have the original Strut-Nut/Threaded Cap
>> (431 412 047 B) that holds the strut insert in the housing.  Can I
>> use the old Bilstein nut on top of the Konis?  Does it serve the
>> same function but just requires a different tool (I'm convinced
>> only a 24" pipe wrench and torch would have done it) to install /
>> remove?  The Bilstein does seem to be a substantial part and I've
>> never seen an OEM cap.
>>
>> Also:  I've only seen it referenced in the V8 thread, but the
>> struts are the same as far as this goes.  When I removed my struts
>> and turned them over a considerable amount of water (a few ounces)
>> poured out (explains the extreemly rough ride in winter).  Would it
>> make sense to put a weep-hole in the bottom of the strut housing
>> tube to drain out water?  I certainly don't want to have a problem
>> in the future with freezing again.  Does everyone run with nice
>> untorn boots and does that do enough to keep out water?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "patrick.anderson1 at comcast.net" <patrick.anderson1 at comcast.net>
>> To: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>; centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
>> Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:17:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: do you need bump stops for knois?
>>
>> The Bilsteins don't need external bump stops because they're built
>> internal. Konis do require them as Bernie said.
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
>>
>>> As I recall, Konis come with bump stops.
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2008, at 11:11 AM, robert weinberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> i did order the kyb bump stop/bellow hit. cheap enough. but my
>>>> friend said you might not even need the bump stops for konis. he
>>>> said you don't need the for bilsteins.
>>>>
>>>> is this true? the only reason i say is that if i don't need them,
>>>> my friend can continue with the koni install rather than wait for
>>>> the parts to arrive. the car is just sitting on the lift waiting
>>>> for the parts to finish installing the front struts.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Robby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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