OMGosh I HATE this awesome car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't

Mon Jul 13 18:54:46 PDT 2009

Ouch!!!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeremiah Curry <jeremiah at curryclan.net>
>Sent: Jul 13, 2009 6:05 PM
>To: '200q20V mailing list' <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Subject: RE: OMGosh I HATE this awesome car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't
>
>My dad just sold his to a local parts place for $50 because the transmission
>went out and the shop told him they couldn't find another one.  I wanted to
>smack him.  He could have got more than that out of the brand new UFOs he
>just had installed.
>
>Jeremiah
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
>Behalf Of robert weinberg
>Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:56 AM
>To: 200q20V mailing list
>Subject: Re: OMG I HATE this F'ing car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't
>
>yeah i know and it's sad. there were only like 1,300 sedans and wagons in
>the US? and the number keeps getting smaller every time someone yanks the 3B
>:-(
>
>go rape a URS4 and leave our 200q20v's alone ;-)
>
>i am at a crossroads with the car myself. but i've already gone so far with
>it, selling it for a gnarly loss would be both sad and relief. reason being
>there are so many worries in today's economic climate, to keep funneling
>funds into this "wallet vampire" is not the brightest thing to do right now.
>
>at the same time, to lose my ass by selling and ending up with nothing is
>pretty depressing too.
>
>see ya,
>Robby
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "Schaible, David" <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
>To: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:38:26 AM
>Subject: RE: OMG I HATE this F'ing car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't
>
>My feeling is the oem stuff is high performance.  Sorry you are having
>issues, there should be plenty of quality used parts out there since folks
>have been harvesting the engines.
>
>David Schaible
>JRS Pharma LP
>2981 Rt. 22
>Patterson, NY 12563
>845.878.8343
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
>Behalf Of Peter Schulz
>Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:29 AM
>To: robert weinberg
>Cc: 200q20V mailing list
>Subject: Re: OMG I HATE this F'ing car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't
>
>Robby:
>
>Let me put it this way.
>Car is low mileage, but still 19 years old..
>Say that again to yourself.
>
>Then think less about the money that you have put into it, and more 
>of how much getting a newer car with the same performance would cost. 
>Also realize that you can buying a used car is a risk, and you need 
>to thoroughly inspect the entire car, even then you won't know if the 
>clutch slave or clutch master could fail tomorrow...
>
>If you want a dependable daily driver, do all the maintenance with 
>factory or oem quality parts and skip the high performance stuff.
>The high performance equipment will sooner or later expose something 
>basic that needs attention - like bushings, bearings, seals, etc.
>
>You need to decide....
>
>
>-Peter
>(no longer a 20q20v owner.)
>
>
>
>At 01:33 PM 7/11/2009 -0700, robert weinberg wrote:
>>Thanks for all the info Ingo.
>>
>>yeah, shayne and his cousin are coming by tomorrow to take a look.
>>
>>man, i'm really on the fence with this car. i know that the $2,800 i 
>>paid for the car was no screaming deal. but it only had 114k on the 
>>clock (116k now) but it needed some TLC. shocks were shot and the 
>>paint on the roof is faded. at the same time, it has full records 
>>and lots of recent service including the timing belt, new radiators 
>>and hoses and UFO rotors. i figured i'd be into the car about $7k 
>>with paint. that's more than the car is worth these days but it was 
>>still worth it to me to not have a worn out example of the breed. 
>>and i don't view the car as an investment. just a long-term fun toy 
>>- not a daily driver.
>>
>>flash forward to now. the moron that installed the timing belt, 
>>didn't bother to replace the roller nor the cam or crank seals. and 
>>the bastard just sat parked for the better part of the last two 
>>years before i bought it. so, the seals went and the roller started 
>>clacking. obviously, 034 replaced the timing belt again and water 
>>pump while there were in there. plus a crapload of other maintenance.
>>
>>it seems the one thing that drew me to the car - it having far less 
>>miles most of the 200q20v's i was looking at, is its downfall. you 
>>gotta drive these beasts. you can't just let them sit or all the 
>>hoses and seals go to shit.
>>
>>coupled with mods (koni/H&R, 034 stage 1, samcos and 034 billet 
>>bypass) plus new kuhmo escta SPT tires on the 17" audi B5 rims that 
>>came on the car, and i'm into it about $8k including purchase. and 
>>it still has crappy paint and the previously nice driver's seat 
>>started ripping at the seam.
>>
>>i don't know. abort mission and take a gnarly loss? or just keep 
>>forging forward. knowing that i've replaced a lot of the wear items, 
>>the engine's leakdown and compression test were very solid, turbo is 
>>like new according to 034. and at some point, i will have a totally 
>>badass 200q20v.
>>
>>my goal (if the car would stop breaking) is the following:
>>034 stage I - done
>>koni/H&R - done
>>034 turbo back - not yet
>>tinted windows - not yet
>>possibly repaint the car from lago to oceanic blue - depending if it 
>>looks totally stupid when you see lago in the engine bay. oceanic is 
>>such a nicer color IMHO
>>finally enjoy the car!
>>
>>still seems so far off :-(
>>
>>see ya,
>>Robby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
>>To: 200q20v at audifans.com; robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:55:08 PM
>>Subject: RE: OMG I HATE this F'ing car!!!!! -- What it is or isn't
>>
>>Robby,
>>
>>There are basically two scenarios and one is a lot easier to fix 
>>than the other.
>>
>>The first is you have an internal failure of the rubber bits in the 
>>clutch master or clutch slave , and inevitably, if you replace one, 
>>the other goes bad shortly thereafter or you replaced the wrong 
>>one.  In my experience, however, this almost always happens after 
>>you've parked the car overnight and you go to use it in the 
>>morning.  The clutch pedal actuation may have been slower, less 
>>precise in the days prior to this happening.
>>Had this happen a few times.
>>
>>The second is what happened to me this past winter, and to which 
>>Tony Hoffman alluded to:  Perfect, smooth clutch action and 
>>then...huh?!? Why won't the pedal come up?  Why isn't there any resistance?
>>In my case the nut for the adjustment where the pedal attaches to 
>>the clutch master rod was not entirely snug against the 
>>clevis.  Then (I'm guessing here), the angle of force on the rod was 
>>such that it somehow became cockeyed and the rod bent and the pivot 
>>hole for the clutch master clevis pin snapped!!!
>>
>>So you need to replace the pedal assembly and the clutch master in 
>>this case.  Failry straight forward and you want to use a pressure 
>>bleeder (like the Motive one Mike mentioned). Likeloy no need to 
>>even bleed the slave (as I found out). The real bitch is getting 
>>that return helper spring in there.  That's the two piece white 
>>plastic one with the fairly thick spring.  I ended up using big 
>>Channellock pliers to compress and strong bailing wire to keep 
>>compressed enough for installation and then snipping the wires after
>install.
>>
>>Anyhow, hope it's the first scenario and not the second -- but just 
>>shining a flashlight up there from underneath will pretty much tell 
>>you right away what the problem is/ isn't.
>>
>>Good Luck.
>>
>>Ingo
>>
>>
>>
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>-Peter Schulz
>Chelmsford Ma, USA
>http://www.naaclub.org/
>
>1995.5 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru
>1995.5 S6 Avant Silver/Platinum
>1991 90Q 20v Q Red
>1991 90Q 20v Indigo
>1991 CQ silver  (eS2 recipient) 
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