UFO Rotors and Calipers

Bernie Benz b.benz at charter.net
Thu Nov 5 13:12:32 PST 2009


Gotta pay attention to those passive wear sensors!


On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Schaible, David wrote:

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> That's a heavy car....sticking guide pins will wear your pads down  
> in short order........ maybe this is more a case of turn down the  
> radio, scoring your rotors that much would make quite a grinding  
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> From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v- 
> bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Ullrich
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: 'Bernie Benz'
> Cc: '200q20V mailing list'
> Subject: RE: UFO Rotors and Calipers
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> So I knew this question would eventually raise its head:
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> The condition of the brakes when I gave her the car appeared to be  
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> They had about half the pad left (inspected when I put new tires on  
> it), so
> it's a mystery to me.
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> I know of no other areas (except maybe western Tenn) where there are
> mountain-type winters. No, a new GF in not in order...perhaps just  
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> re-education.  :-)
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> Brian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.benz at charter.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:14 AM
> To: Brian K. Ullrich
> Cc: 200q20V mailing list
> Subject: Re: UFO Rotors and Calipers
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> The unanswered Q is:
> What was the condition of the brakes when you loaned the car??
> Where is there mountain winter between  Asheville, N.C. and Texas?
> Maybe a new GF is in order.
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> Bernie
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> On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:16 AM, Brian K. Ullrich wrote:
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>> The GF lives in Asheville, N.C. right now (moving to Texas in
>> January), so I
>> gave her the V8 to drive through the mountain winter when her last
>> car gave
>> up the ghost. New snow tires, recent transmission service, plugs,  
>> oil,
>> topped up fluids plus bottles of extra.made sure the car would get  
>> her
>> through until January when we'd get it on a truck to Texas.
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>> She's not very in tune with cars, and told me a month or so ago
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>> brakes were getting mushy. I asked if they were stopping the car
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>> there were any lights on on the dash, and did she hear anything
>> grinding?
>> She said the brakes still worked, no lights, and no noise. I told
>> her we'd
>> get the car in for a brake job with a local Audi guy this week. She
>> was to
>> take it in Monday during lunch. This happened Monday morning ion
>> her way to
>> work.
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>> Short story is that the front pads were GONE, and had been gone for
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>> time. She had metal-on-metal so long that she wore the rotors down
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>> way to the ribs. Pulled a piston out of a caliper, and she was
>> toast. Pedal
>> went straight to floor, she ran through three red-lights before she
>> got her
>> wits together enough to put the car into N, and sort of coast to a
>> stop in a
>> pile of landscape debris. She was quite understandably freaked.
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>> I have not yet seen it, but the dildo at Firestone in Asheville
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>> calipers were both destroyed, brake lines on one side are destroyed
>> (probably by exiting debris) and the rotors worn clear through to
>> the ribs
>> on both sides. He then proceeded to tell me it would cost more to
>> fix than
>> the car was worth, so I should probably just get a new car since
>> this one
>> was so old. Oh, and this is a REALLY cool motor.
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>> I have a guy I trust that is going to move the car back to the GF's
>> house
>> and inspect it. I'll know more then, but even though the dildo at
>> Firestone
>> is a.well, a dildo from Firestone, I asked very specific, targeted
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>> and got consistent answers. So my initial opinion is that I'm going
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>> to replace the entire front brake system.
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>> She's getting a B5 2.8 30v A4Q. Nice and mild. J
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>> From: rbade12 at aol.com [mailto:rbade12 at aol.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:58 PM
>> To: bullrich at ullrichsys.com; V8 at audifans.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: UFO Rotors and Calipers
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>> Curious as to what kind of failure would necessitate replacement of
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>> entire front brake system.
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>> UFO rotors are available from many sources, AutohausAZ comes to
>> mind, about
>> $160 a piece if I recall. Calipers are another deal, not sure where
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>> them other than The Marketplace or ebay. I've acquired a set that
>> way for
>> future use.
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>> Changing to conventional brakes requires replacement of the entire
>> strut
>> assembly. The calipers would then have to sourced from ?, probably
>> easy to
>> find, rotors from ?, probably easy to find.
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>> Tell us what happened.
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>> Bob
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian K. Ullrich <bullrich at ullrichsys.com>
>> To: V8 at audifans.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:17 pm
>> Subject: UFO Rotors and Calipers
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>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'll throw mine into the  
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