Motor bucks slightly (long)
jlagnese at massed.net
jlagnese at massed.net
Wed Nov 11 11:47:24 PST 2009
My 20V does an occcasional buck at highway speeds. I
commute 144 miles daily. I have been unable to
diagnose either. The best was to change plugs one
time and problem disappeard for a few years. Then
the plug change didn't help.
---- Original message ----
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:41:47 -0700
From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
Subject: Motor bucks slightly (long)
To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
>Guys-
>Experiencing a weird motor issue that has gotten
worse in the last week.
>Really got me scratching my head.
>
>Over the last year or two my engine has bucked a
little (on rare occasions)
>when starting off. This is when when the engine
is cold (usually but NOT
>always) and fully in gear and already moving a
few (maybe 5 tops?) mph - not
>during clutch engagement - but right after. A few
days ago I was going to
>drive the car to work - backed out of the garage
and the motor stalled with
>car in neutral. Re-started fine - but decided to
take the S4 to work
>instead. So that night I went out to the garage -
no codes - started fine -
>backed out - no stall. But it did buck a couple
minutes later - in the
>beginning when I took it for a spin. It was a
bigger buck compared to
>"normal". These aren't bang your head on the
steering wheel bucks but
>something is definitely going on. Pulled codes
again right away - nothing.
>Drove around for 10 minutes - no more bucking.
Next day I decided to give
>it another go. Pulled codes again JIC - nothing.
Car started fine and all
>that - but it did buck once while cold when I
pulled onto the street. Then
>no more issues on the way in to work. Continued
to buck a little (say once)
>within the first few minutes each tine I drove
it.
>
>Something is going on with my engine - here are
my observations:
>
>1. Bucks once or twice when cold at low rpm in
1st - goes away when warm -
>more often in the last few days. It _has_ done it
more when warm in the
>last day or two.
>2. Very rich exhaust smell at idle - still
>3. Out of spec O2 Adaptation Values (I did put a
new O2 sensor in - however
>that is not a solution to out of spec adaptation
per Bentley)
>4. Failed NOX emissions test - high NOX signals
high exhaust temps (lean
>run?) (later passed - just just barely)
>
>As a side point to the data - I only get about 17
mpg - but I do likey the
>boost (this motor is in an ur-quattro) so I don't
consider that too
>much....
>
>So a few people suggested I pressure the system
sounded like an air leak -
>and I do agree. So I did (again - had done it a
few times).
>
>So over the weekend I pressure tested the system
- up to about 15 psi.
>There was a slight leak in the rubber connector
hose from the metal
>crankcase breather (above the EM) to that black
plastic thingie (TM) behind
>the VC.
>Some air coming out the oil fill cap.
>
>So then I blocked the crankcase breather off. No
boost leaks in the intake
>tract. I used a stethoscope (hose) at all the
junctions - can't miss an air
>leak.
>
>But I kept looking around - decided to pull off
the small vacuum lines that
>come off the back of the IM and use the mighty
vac. The first one held no
>vacuum at all. Well it turned out a hose had come
off - but it was _AFTER_
>a check valve - so no boost leak but was allowing
incoming unmetered air
>under vacuum conditions - which really seemed
like the type of problem I was
>experiencing. Fixed it. Other two were tight -
held vacuum.
>
>Unfortunately it did _not_ affect how the car
ran. :-((( Still had a couple
>minor bucks when I drove the car in - then quite
a few on the way home when
>the engine was hot. Big disappointment.
>
>I will replace the crankcase breather section and
see if that does the
>trick.
>
>Anybody else have this issue before??? Any other
ideas?
>
>Brandon
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