Poor running 3B

Mon Nov 22 15:24:21 PST 2010

I used carb cleaner.  Hop it was not to toxic.

Pete

In a message dated 11/22/2010 3:48:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
James.Pasqualoni at sungard.com writes:

Just a  suggestion-CRC makes a MAF cleaner that is a bit more hospitable
to the MAF  than brake cleaner.

-----Original Message-----
From:  <200q20v-bounces at audifans.com>@SUNGARD On Behalf Of "Schaible,
David"  <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:42  PM
To: PeterBergin at aol.com; group44_us at yahoo.com;  bradyzq at hotmail.com;
auditony at gmail.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject:  RE: Poor running 3B

I would clean the connections (you probably did  already), also my audi
tuner friend says he has treated them with brake  cleaner, spray the
thing down inside a ziplock bag I think it was, and  swish it around once
you have a lot of liquid in it. This seems to work  especially well for
those maf's that have been corrupted by improperly  treated k&n filters,
buildup of oily residue on that fine wire I  guess.  Don't know exactly
what brake cleaner he was referring  to.

Also pete, that radio should go out tomorrow, good  luck

David Schaible
JRS Pharma LP
2981 Rt. 22
Patterson, NY  12563
845.878.8343

-----Original Message-----
From:  200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com]
On  Behalf Of PeterBergin at aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:10  PM
To: PeterBergin at aol.com; group44_us at yahoo.com;  bradyzq at hotmail.com;
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Subject:  Re: Poor running 3B 

Pulled the codes today, the old 2121 kept  repeating itself (used to
have 
an intermittent light) cleared the old  ones.  All I get with the  motor 
running is 4413 (fuel injector  3) continuous, repeated its self at least
25 
times before I turned the  key off.

Did the manual engine off click and buzz test, everything  fine, felt and

herd 5 clicks on all injectors, any everything else  clicked as normal.

Car cold starts fine, once I give it gas it  hesitates and misses, only  
takes gas if I apply the pedal very  gently.

Unplugging the MAF makes no difference in running, no worse,  no  better.

Should I be looking for a used MAF.  If so any  one have  one.

Looking for a way out of this with out going to the  shop or replacing a

bunch of stuff I don't need.

Any  Ideas?

Thanks, Pete
91 Avant 

In a message dated  11/22/2010 6:23:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
PeterBergin at aol.com  writes:

Cap,  rotor, wires, plugs and wires have about  40k  on them.   Look
good 
and 
dry.  Started car yesterday  no difference, am going to  pull  codes
today.
Thanks,  Pete

In a message dated  11/21/2010 9:07:32 P.M. Central  Standard Time,  
group44_us at yahoo.com  writes:

Its  possible, but I wouldn't condemn it yet. You mentioned  ice  storm
and  
rainy... how old are your wires? how about the cap  and  rotor? Id pull
that 
and  dry them off first and see what  that does.  If they are new and
decent 
then you  might be  looking at a maf. When  my MAF went it was pretty
smokey 
at  
idle and  couldnt pull any boost  at all. not even 1   psi

____________________________________
From:   "PeterBergin at aol.com"  <PeterBergin at aol.com>
To:   group44_us at yahoo.com;  bradyzq at hotmail.com;  auditony at gmail.com
Cc:  200q20v at audifans.com
Sent: Sun, November  21, 2010 4:56:03   PM
Subject: Re: Poor running  3B  ---FIXED!---

Think you jinxed  me!  Was driving home in the  worst ice storm I have
seen 
in  Minneapolis.  Car suddenly  starting running like  crap.  Bucks,
wont 
usually idle unless  I hold the peddle down a  bit, must  accelerate very

slowly  
to make any  speed.  Bummer!

Car  ran perfect  before, however had two intermentant codes.  O2  sensor

and  
ISV.  Have had an O2 sensor on order, first one came in   wrong  part.
Did 
not pay much attention to the ISV because  the  car ran perfect  (238k 
miles).

Unplugged the MAF  sensor, no  difference in car running, pressured
turbo 
and vacuum  system to 15  psi, no leeks, pulled and cleaned MAF, no   
difference.

Started to  rain again (have to work out side) so  I quit for the  day.  
Will  
clear and pull codes  tomorrow.

Think I am on the right path with  the  MAF?

Thanks
Pete 91 Avant (never breaks down during good   weather)  

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