rear main seal leak

Bernie Benz b.benz at charter.net
Fri Jan 14 14:01:07 PST 2011 

For a plugged or restricted condition. The 20V distributors have no  
shaft oil seal so CC pressure will force oil into it.

2
On Jan 14, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Ed Kellock wrote:

> For a plugged condition or a leak?
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.benz at charter.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:59 PM
> To: Ed Kellock
> Cc: auditude at cox.net; '200q20V mailing list'
> Subject: Re: rear main seal leak
>
>
> Jeez! Check your CC breather system. Got oil in your distributor?  
> On Jan 14,
> 2011, at 12:52 PM, Ed Kellock wrote:
>
>> I'm going this route with my urq.  The air leaking past the rear
>> main seal
>> makes an awful noise.  I've got a standard bearing sealer in there
>> now, but
>> I'm not sure it's doing anything.  I've got the more "special" rear
>> bearing
>> seal restorer juice on the shelf waiting to go in.  I recall that
>> it used to
>> be quiet after an oil change, but the longer I leave old oil in
>> there, the
>> more often it is noisy.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-
>> bounces at audifans.com] On
>> Behalf Of Bernie Benz
>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:40 PM
>> To: auditude at cox.net
>> Cc: 200q20V mailing list
>> Subject: Re: rear main seal leak
>>
>>
>> I've not heard of nor used that one but it should work as well as any
>> of the many others. Requires at least 1K miles to be effective, if  
>> the
>> seals are otherwise good. I've used CD2, Bars Leak, and others,
>> usually whatever is on sale. Works in tranny and rear end also, any
>> rotary shaft seal, not on gasket leaks.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:44 AM, <auditude at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bernie,
>>>
>>> Yeah, I was going to mention that I did try some Rislone "rear main
>>> seal repair" (ha ha, good marketing name) treatment and so far is
>>> hasn't worked.  I will try something else or try again before I  
>>> go so
>>> far as to drop the tranny.  BTDT on an '88 5ktq and it's a bit of a
>>> chore.
>>>
>>> http://www.rislone.ca/34250.htm
>>>
>>> Is there any particular brand of snake oil you recommend besides  
>>> that
>>> one?
>>>
>>> What it might be is that the clutch was replaced and they botched  
>>> the
>>> rear main seal install.  Actually that doesn't seem likely as the PO
>>> family was more of the type to go to the dealer, I think. Perhaps
>>> when I inspect things more closely I'll find that it's coming from
>>> somewhere else nearby.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Kenneth
>>>
>>> ---- Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Ken,
>>>> Give those leaking rotary shaft seals the Snake Oil treatment. Mine
>>>> are original at 230K and still running dry. Clutch also.
>>>>
>>>> Bernie
>>>>
>>>> 2
>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:52 AM, <auditude at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, my 200q20v has a leak apparently coming from the rear main
>>>>> seal.  Even worse is that the clutch seems pretty good, it engaged
>>>>> low near the floor and isn't hard to depress, which to mean means
>>>>> it's still pretty meaty and may have been changed.  So either  
>>>>> their
>>>>> didn't change the rear main seal or when they did they screwed it
>>>>> up.  Putz!  lol  I was considering just replacing just the seal to
>>>>> save the clutch money for other stuff, which is potentially putzy
>>>>> move, but it would come out of my own hobby labor rather than a
>>>>> maintenance budget.
>>>>>
>>>>> So was the 034 200q20v a "one-off" build or is it something they
>>>>> are
>>>>> offering?  I could not find it on the website.  You had it
>>>>> installed for fitment testing and then gave it back to them?   So
>>>>> they might have a prototype bouncing around?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did it drone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenneth
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> the 034 200q20v turboback is proprietary to the 200q20v. i know
>>>>>> this because they used my car to design the exhaust ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i didn't buy it to keep it on the car because i was already angry
>>>>>> at the car for pissing oil all over my garage and having to
>>>>>> replace
>>>>>> the cam and crank seals.
>>>>>> not really the car's fault because the previous owner replaced  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> timing belt
>>>>>> 10k miles ago BUT did not replace the seals nor the waterpump and
>>>>>> roller. putz!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but the notion of blowing another grand on top of the repair bill
>>>>>> was prohibitive at the time. i do wish i kept the exhaust in
>>>>>> retrospect though. not
>>>>>> sure how much they want for the turboback now - this was in 2008.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see ya,
>>>>>> Robby
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: "auditude at cox.net" <auditude at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>>>>>> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:36:54 AM
>>>>>> Subject: 034 turbo back on 200q20v? (firtment, instead of an  
>>>>>> S4/6)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Referencing this thread from last month, has anyone installed an
>>>>>> 034 turbo back exhaust on a 200q20v?  It's designed for a  C4
>>>>>> S4/S6, which from the Stromung discussions has a different
>>>>>> tailpipe location from the 200q20v but is otherwise
>>>>>> close enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the tailpipe location issue the same as with the Stromung, or
>>>>>> does 034 have some sort of a 200q20v-specific exhaust that I  
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> find on their website? Robby's post sounds as if there might be a
>>>>>> variation specifically for the
>>>>>> 200q20v.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 034 tailpipes look like they are slipped over the dual  
>>>>>> outlets
>>>>>> of the Magnaflow muffler and welded directly to the back plate of
>>>>>> the muffler body.  If there isn't already an accomodation for the
>>>>>> 200q20v then it would be cool to be
>>>>>> able to get the exhaust without the tips welded on (I'd still  
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> to have the
>>>>>> tips).  I noticed in the pics that the welds for the tips don't
>>>>>> appear to be
>>>>>> quite as awesome-looking (or at least not like the tiny perfect
>>>>>> bicycle frame
>>>>>> style welds) at the closeup pics of the downpipe welds at the WG
>>>>>> merge joint,
>>>>>> for example, so maybe they are put on at the end (of the process
>>>>>> that is, ha ha)
>>>>>> or manually or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One more question, which maybe I'll find a answer better on
>>>>>> Motorgeek, but with all the revisions to the Stromung system to
>>>>>> elminate drone, how does the 034 system fare for exhaust drone?
>>>>>> It just has just the one muffler at the end.
>>>>>> The 034 system seems less expensive than the Stromung prices I'd
>>>>>> heard from
>>>>>> earlier group buys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious at the moment because there's another round of
>>>>>> Stromung
>>>>>> group buy going around and I'm asking myself the question about
>>>>>> whether I want one for a
>>>>>> 200q20v.  In upgrading a 200q20v, I prefer the mods to be
>>>>>> transferrable to an
>>>>>> urS-car in case I get one someday (and if I do that I'll want the
>>>>>> tips to look
>>>>>> as clean/original/unmodified as I can get them, but I'm  
>>>>>> thinking I
>>>>>> can't have it
>>>>>> both ways).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of that, does anyone have any pics of an unmodified
>>>>>> Stromung on a 200q20v?  I know Taka had one on his car but he had
>>>>>> extended the tips, and I don't recall seeing how that looked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenneth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> robert weinberg centaurus3200 at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the 034 turbo back for the 200q20v is about $1k plus
>>>>>> installation,
>>>>>> i believe. it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is California legal. my guess is that they can use any cat with
>>>>>> their exhaust - not just ones that will fit audi exhausts. hence
>>>>>> the cats are cheaper."
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