UFO conversion
Adam Gratz
adamgratz at gmail.com
Mon May 16 01:07:12 PDT 2011
You can put a set up 5000 front struts with calipers and lower control
arms. Used from the salvage yards probably under $300. I have a set of
willwood aluminum calipers and brackets for sale. The use a stock rear
disk I believe, of which I have new set of slotted. $500.
Doc
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> 5. Re: UFO brake conversion (alan cordeiro)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:51:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: christopher locke <c.locke at snet.net>
> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: UFO brake conversion
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> Hi gang,
> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's have finally
> had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the bank. I don't race,
> they're just daily drivers. What is a nice conversion that doesn't cost $$$?
> I'm sure I may get a flurry of answers, but that's ok. I have no problem
> converting to a style of brake that's available on other cars - i.e. using used
> parts to do the conversion and being able to get new rotors and pads.... I read
> an article online about someone having to turn down the hub on a lathe (which I
> can do, i have a lathe) so a particular rotor would fit, and some caliper had 2
> of the 3 bolt holes line up, that sounds like it could work, but i'll be darned
> I can't find that article anywhere.
>
>
> What do you all think?
>
> chris
> '91 2C20VTQW
> '91 2C20VTQ
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:44:01 -0400
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
> Message-ID: <4DCF05B1.40605 at comcast.net>
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> christopher locke wrote:
>> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's have finally
>> had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the bank. I don't race,
>> they're just daily drivers. What is a nice conversion that doesn't cost $$$?
>
> Most conversions cost money. You're buying rotors, calipers, pads, and
> rubber brake lines. You're basically completely replacing your brakes, not
> just the pads. I believe most conversions involve the G60-version of the
> struts, and some sort of custom bracket. Even if you went with good used
> struts, rotors and calipers, the brackets won't be cheap (if you can find
> or design and make them).
>
> The V8 converted to a 5-speed that passed through my hands had Audi A8 rotors
> and Mercedes S-Class calipers. I don't know who made the brackets. The brakes
> worked very well.
>
> --
> Kent McLean
> 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
> 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
> gone: too many to count, including my first, "Bad Puppy"
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:58:29 -0400
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> To: 200q20v <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
> Message-ID: <4DCF2535.5030203 at comcast.net>
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> (replying to the list)
>
> That's true about the G60 brakes being inferior to the UFOs, but I believe
> you still need the G60 struts so you'll have someplace to bolt the new
> caliper bracket to.
>
> robert weinberg wrote:
>> i'd probably try and find a set of used 993 brakes, willwood or baers. the G60
>> is INFERIOR to good working UFOs.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
>>
>> christopher locke wrote:
>>> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's have finally
>>> had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the bank. I don't race,
>>> they're just daily drivers. What is a nice conversion that doesn't cost $$$?
>>
>> Most conversions cost money. You're buying rotors, calipers, pads, and
>> rubber brake lines. You're basically completely replacing your brakes, not
>> just the pads. I believe most conversions involve the G60-version of the
>> struts, and some sort of custom bracket. Even if you went with good used
>> struts, rotors and calipers, the brackets won't be cheap (if you can find
>> or design and make them).
>>
>> The V8 converted to a 5-speed that passed through my hands had Audi A8 rotors
>> and Mercedes S-Class calipers. I don't know who made the brackets. The brakes
>> worked very well.
>
> --
> Kent McLean
> 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
> 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
> gone: too many to count, including my first, "Bad Puppy"
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:21:05 -0400
> From: jake falk <nullassult at gmail.com>
> To: christopher locke <c.locke at snet.net>
> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
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> I believe the conversion you are thinking of with the 2/3 holes lining up is
> using the ufo uprights with the b5 s4/c5 a6 calipers (hp2?). I think I read
> about it on motorgeek. I can check when I'm not on a cell phone. Having said
> that, I'm looking for a set of ufo uprights to do the conversion myself. . .
> I think the other conversion is to use the g54 calipers from an a4 with tt
> carriers.
> On May 14, 2011 5:51 PM, "christopher locke" <c.locke at snet.net> wrote:
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:15:16 -0400
> From: "alan cordeiro" <alancordeiro at comcast.net>
> To: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>, "200q20v"
> <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
> Message-ID: <1F17D3EBA02A4348BEE470EB56BB5119 at alce3100>
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>
> Even thought the UFOs are so unique and expensive, each time I considered
> swapping them over to regular discs, the monetary analysis always seemed to
> favor looking for a used UFO disc in good condition and keeping the system.
> The UFO discs do seem to last much longer than the regular discs, and if you
> can live with the inability top have them turned smooth...they still work
> great when you hit the brakes hard.
>
> I eventually rebuilt one of front calipers myself when it sprung a leak at
> 250k+....and it was much easier to rebuild than the rears since those have
> the handbrake actuator......
>
> Hunt around for good used set, there are some that appear from time to
> time...else you can still get them new for around $200-250 each,
>
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> To: "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
>
>
>> (replying to the list)
>>
>> That's true about the G60 brakes being inferior to the UFOs, but I believe
>> you still need the G60 struts so you'll have someplace to bolt the new
>> caliper bracket to.
>>
>> robert weinberg wrote:
>>> i'd probably try and find a set of used 993 brakes, willwood or baers.
>>> the G60
>>> is INFERIOR to good working UFOs.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
>>>
>>> christopher locke wrote:
>>>> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's have
>>> finally
>>>> had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the bank. I don't
>>> race,
>>>> they're just daily drivers. What is a nice conversion that doesn't
>>> cost $$$?
>>>
>>> Most conversions cost money. You're buying rotors, calipers, pads, and
>>> rubber brake lines. You're basically completely replacing your brakes,
>>> not
>>> just the pads. I believe most conversions involve the G60-version of the
>>> struts, and some sort of custom bracket. Even if you went with good used
>>> struts, rotors and calipers, the brackets won't be cheap (if you can find
>>> or design and make them).
>>>
>>> The V8 converted to a 5-speed that passed through my hands had Audi A8
>>> rotors
>>> and Mercedes S-Class calipers. I don't know who made the brackets. The
>>> brakes
>>> worked very well.
>>
>> --
>> Kent McLean
>> 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
>> 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
>> gone: too many to count, including my first, "Bad Puppy"
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 19:31:06 -0600
> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
> To: "'200q20v'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: UFO brake conversion
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> There's a lot of discussion about the ability of UFO's versus G60's and it
> is essentially true that G60's do not offer as much stopping power. But,
> for every-day driving, they aren't that bad. And the ease, availability,
> and cost of servicing them is far easier. To do the swap affordably, it
> would only work if you can find a donor car. Probably not too difficult,
> but not something you're going to find with one phone call. Then, down the
> road, if you want to upgrade, you are in a better position to pick up
> someone's take-off big brake kit, which is happening more often now with
> aging urS-cars.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of Kent McLean
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 6:58 PM
> To: 200q20v
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
>
>
> (replying to the list)
>
> That's true about the G60 brakes being inferior to the UFOs, but I believe
> you still need the G60 struts so you'll have someplace to bolt the new
> caliper bracket to.
>
> robert weinberg wrote:
>> i'd probably try and find a set of used 993 brakes, willwood or baers.
>> the G60 is INFERIOR to good working UFOs.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>> *From:* Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
>>
>> christopher locke wrote:
>>> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's
>> have finally > had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the
>> bank. I don't race, > they're just daily drivers. What is a nice
>> conversion that doesn't cost $$$?
>>
>> Most conversions cost money. You're buying rotors, calipers, pads, and
>> rubber brake lines. You're basically completely replacing your brakes,
>> not just the pads. I believe most conversions involve the G60-version
>> of the struts, and some sort of custom bracket. Even if you went with
>> good used struts, rotors and calipers, the brackets won't be cheap (if
>> you can find or design and make them).
>>
>> The V8 converted to a 5-speed that passed through my hands had Audi A8
>> rotors and Mercedes S-Class calipers. I don't know who made the
>> brackets. The brakes worked very well.
>
> --
> Kent McLean
> 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
> 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
> gone: too many to count, including my first, "Bad Puppy"
>
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> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 00:12:35 EDT
> From: PeterBergin at aol.com
> To: kentmclean at comcast.net, 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
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> My 200 had the G-60 conversion done by Audi under warantee during 1992 by
> the prior owner. parts seem to be off of a V8 (tie rod part numbers
> anyway). I am not aware of any custom brackets. I would think you could redo
> the UFO's cheeper.
>
> Pete
>
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2011 5:44:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> kentmclean at comcast.net writes:
>
> christopher locke wrote:
>> I have two '91 200tq20v's and need to do front brakes. the UFO's have
> finally
>> had it, and I need a conversion that won't break the bank. I don't race,
>> they're just daily drivers. What is a nice conversion that doesn't cost
> $$$?
>
> Most conversions cost money. You're buying rotors, calipers, pads, and
> rubber brake lines. You're basically completely replacing your brakes, not
> just the pads. I believe most conversions involve the G60-version of the
> struts, and some sort of custom bracket. Even if you went with good used
> struts, rotors and calipers, the brackets won't be cheap (if you can find
> or design and make them).
>
> The V8 converted to a 5-speed that passed through my hands had Audi A8
> rotors
> and Mercedes S-Class calipers. I don't know who made the brackets. The
> brakes
> worked very well.
>
> --
> Kent McLean
> 1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
> 1990 200 Avant mit V8 conversion
> gone: too many to count, including my first, "Bad Puppy"
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:03:19 -0400
> From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
> To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: UFO brake conversion
> Message-ID: <ECDDBF7BF6BD4F9BA4D0299A400C1C27 at homedesktop>
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>
> Looked into doing this conversion myself, but ended up getting a ufo rotor
> for cheap. My 200 has almost 285k, trying to avoid any major expenditures!
>
>
>
> http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=17
> <http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=29978&sid=cf197e239417774d9d0
> 71c4b944a5aec> &t=29978&sid=cf197e239417774d9d071c4b944a5aec
>
>
>
> The other swap to g60's involves a S4 strut assy. I was quoted 600 for S4
> strut assemblies including new rotors and pads. Didn't really want to spend
> that much!
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
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