[A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8 "MY 2 CENTS"

Quincy Chiang b5quattro at shaw.ca
Sun Dec 26 23:43:40 EST 2004


When I went to my first ACNA driving school with my 1.8tq 2 summers ago, the local dealer brought in a few cars for us to try on the track (it's a fairly short track).  I drove a TT 225 (no mods) for 3 laps, it was lighter and a bit quicker than my stock A4 but somehow it didn't feel as secure as the A4, and I think it's partly due to the haldex system.  I felt like the power was being shifted from the front to rear in a somewhat choppy manner, whereas in the torsen system it's completely seemless.

Quincy

----- Original Message -----
From: Gordie's Garage <audidoodie at comcast.net>
Date: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:23 am
Subject: RE: [A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8  "MY 2 CENTS"

> Not sure about the lighter weight (probably), but it is what has 
> to be used
> for a transverse mounted motor.  The Haldex is a viscous coupling, 
> ie; it
> requires slippage in the front wheels for power to be put to the rear
> wheels, IOW, a front driver most of the time.  Prob is that it is 
> a reactive
> system as opposed to the more proactive torsen.  I worked at an 
> Audi dealer
> for 3 yrs and in the winter we would sometimes have to push a TT, 
> but never
> a sedan, with both being AWD.  The difference is noticeable on a 
> track too.
> To me, too much understeer has to be introduced before rear 
> provides any
> assist, then not enough.  Sedan (torsen) is relatively easy to put 
> into a 4
> wheel drift.
> 
> Though, depending on how/where you are going to use your car, you 
> may never
> see a difference 'tween the two.;^)
> 
> Gordie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Reynolds [kjtar at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 12:47 PM
> > To: audidoodie at comcast.net; a4 at audifans.com
> > Subject: RE: [A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8 "MY 2 CENTS"
> >
> >
> > Hi Gordie,
> >         Yeah, I think I'd rather have the AWD system than just 
> FWD. The TT
> > kind of "speaks" to me and gets me excited, I had the Torsen on 
> a '94
> > MiataR I previously owned, and it seemed like a pretty seamless 
> system.  I
> > think the Haldex is supposed to be lighter weight, correct?
> > Best regards,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > At 09:30 AM 12/25/2004 -0500, Gordie's Garage wrote:
> > >
> > >Tom, the TTQ is not the same type of AWD system as the A4.  TT
> > uses a Haldex
> > >diff and A4 uses the Torsen diff.
> > >As you were originally looking at a FWD car, the TT may be okay 
> for you.
> > >Personally, I think the Torsen makes a world of difference.
> > >
> > >Gordie
> > >
> > >
> > >> get the right pricing point I'll be getting a 1.8Q or maybe a
> > TT Quattro.
> > >> Merry Christmas (smoke 'em if you got 'em)
> > >> Tom Reynolds
> > >> Sand Springs, OK
> > >>
> > >
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