[A4] i'm buying a new A4
Rocky Mullin
caliban at sharon.net
Thu Dec 15 03:04:28 EST 2005
i prefer to lease. i like having a new car. at this point in
uncertain oil supplies, changing diesel regulations, and rapidly advancing
alternative fuels, i don't want to be stuck trying to sell a gasoline
powered car in 2-5 years as i believe values will plummet.
basically, with a lease, you only pay for the amount of the car you
use. when the terms come do, you give it back. i like to use these numbers
for example:
$30k car:
to buy, you make $30k worth of payments and then you own it. you
try to sell it to get some of that equity back, say $15k. you've spent
$15k - if you can get someone to give you $15k for the car, used.
to lease, you make $15k worth of payments over X number of years.
at the end, the dealer takes it back. there is no concern over what you
can get for it on the open market. there's no hassle of trying to find a
buyer. and your payments were half as much since you weren't paying for
the half of the car you were going to sell later.
you can generally afford twice as much car when you lease, since
you are only making payments on about half its value. furthermore, it's
generally not much of an increase on your payments to add options.
so, i have a totally loaded and plush $43k audi A4 avant, for a
monthly payment of $360 with $3000 down. in two years, i'll take it back
to the dealer, and get a brand new car once again, with whatever new and
exciting features they're offering at that time. i look forward to a
future of this.
At 11:34 PM -0800 12/14/05, John Karasaki wrote:
>Rocky,
>
>We've always paid for our cars. Is it a better deal to lease?
>
>John
>
>At 10:56 PM 12/14/2005 -0800, Rocky Mullin wrote:
>
>> i like the subie XT a whole lot. i was ready to get one until my
>>local audi dealer made me a deal i couldn't refuse. i like those FX cars
>>as well.
>>
>> look at BMW for great deals on leases on xdrive cars right now.
>>also, mercedes has some great lease deals now too.
>>
>>
>>At 10:46 PM -0800 12/14/05, John Karasaki wrote:
>>>Aaron,
>>>
>>>As they say "Results not typical." Our '99.5 Avant - 2.8 quattro
>>>automatic with sport package just turned 101k miles. We have
>>>owned it since 50k. Got the t-belt job at 60k due to leaking cam
>>>seals. It had the tie rod ends replaced under recall before we
>>>bought it. Yet, we just had those replaced as they were TOAST.
>>>New control arms up front, new bilstein shocks. ABS computer has
>>>given up the ghost. Yeah, terrible gas mileage.
>>>
>>>You're lucky to get such amazingly good life out of your car since
>>>you admit you drive it hard. I WISH we had such good luck.
>>>
>>>We've owned Audis -- alot of Audis -- since 1989. My '90 cq has
>>>240k+ miles and I'd like to replace it. The only Audi in the
>>>running is a ur-S6 avant. The other cars are Infiniti G35 or
>>>FX35, Subaru GT limited wagon or sedan spec. B, and Mazdaspeed 6.
>>>There's a disturbing pattern here. All the $30k+ (new) cars on
>>>this list are not German!
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 02:10 PM 11/30/2005 -0500, Aaron Azevedo wrote:
>>>>Nick -
>>>>
>>>>For what its worth, I've also got a '00 A4 Avant - 2.8 quattro 5 speed
>>>>with sport package. I just turned 101k miles last week. Admittedly, I
>>>>drive the car very hard. I keep all the fluids new and clean. The car
>>>>has been bulletproof. I just did my first tie rod end. I did the
>>>>brakes and rotors at 80k and the timing belt/water pump at 90k.
>>>>
>>>>My biggest complaint is the fuel mileage - terrible at 20mpg. I'm
>>>>trying to justify a BMW 545, with the 26mpg it gets. Yeah, right.
>>>>Pretty bad logic.
>>>>
>>>>Isn't the decision part of the fun:)
>>>>
>>>>Aaron
>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky Mullin <caliban at sharon.net> 11/30/2005 1:53:41 PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>still, lots of second thoughts. talked a lot with the wifey last
>>>>night. she gave it her stamp of approval, but still. it comes down to
>>>>spending an extra $300/month. that's $3600/year, for the most part
>>>>because
>>>>i want some new features (nav with map screen, i already have first
>>>>gen
>>>>nav in my 2000 avant, and leather/wood) and i worry about what repairs
>>>>might cost because the extended warranty runs out in february. still,
>>>>it's pretty unlikely that i'd have t0 spend $3600/year for two years.
>>>>especially since most of the front suspension is new, clutch is new,
>>>>TB/WP is done, and lots of little seals and boots have been replaced
>>>>by
>>>>my dealer who has been finding every last thing with any flaw at all
>>>>to
>>>>do before the warranty runs out. oh yeah, the engine was apart 8k
>>>>miles
>>>>ago, no sludge. so maybe it's going to cost me a lot LESS than
>>>>$3600/year
>>>>to maintain. 67k miles BTW.
>>>>
>>>>and, in all honesty, i like the 325xi best, though it costs more
>>>>than the A4. i believ that has towing capacity, too.
>>>>
>>>>At 6:43 AM -0800 11/30/05, Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>>>>I second that...nice choice, you'll love it (as I am...).
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>On 11/30/05, Calvyn < Calvyn at stny.rr.com > wrote:
>>>>>> Honda element awd???????
>>>>>> Is this like a placebo in your vehicle testing venture?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good final choice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: a4-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:a4-bounces at audifans.com] On
>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>> Rocky Mullin
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:53 AM
>>>>>> To: Nicholas Stock
>>>>>> Cc: a4 at audifans.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [A4] i'm buying a new A4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of course!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2006 A4 2.0t, loaded. the deposit is down, all pending wifey's
>>>>>> approval. i've driven and priced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bmw 325xi and 530xi
>>>>>> volvo v50 and xc70
>>>>>> subaru wrx, wrx sti and outback xt
>>>>>> audi a3 3.2 quattro and 2.0t
>>>>>> honda element awd
>>>>>> infiniti fx35 and fx45
>>>>>>
>>>>>> all wagon-types except of course the wrx sti.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 530xi was REALLY close. the lease deal at BMW now for
>>>> >> that car is sick. $539. the a4 wins because of the current lease
>>>>>> deals from audi. the only place it doesn't beat the xt is the xt
>>>>>> has towing capacity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 8:21 PM -0800 11/29/05, Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>>>>> >Rocky,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Are we allowed to ask what you're replacing the A4 with?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Nick
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >On 11/29/05, Rocky Mullin < caliban at sharon.net > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> my 2000 is for sale. i'll also be separately selling my
>>>>>> >> APR chip *with spare ECU* as well as a GFB F/X blowoff valve.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> the A4 has new clutch, new front suspension, GPS, luxury
>>>>>> >> package, sport package, winter package.... the list goes on and
>>>>on.
>>>>>> >> cactus green. oh, it's an avant. spare ur-quattro rims with
>>>>nokian
>>>>>> >> snow tires negotiable.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Rocky Mullin
>>>>>> >>
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