[A4] new / used a4

[Rocky Mullin]

	well no freaking DUH then.  man you're really out on a limb.

At 5:22 AM +0000 7/8/06, docwyte at comcast.net wrote:
>Stock to stock, from the factory is the way this is being based. 
>Even with unlimited resources, you can't beat physics and that mass 
>will always be there...
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Rocky Mullin <caliban at sharon.net>
>
>>
>>  it also depends highly on equipment and setup and tuning, even
>>  torque factors in.if the heavier car has a ton of effort into suspension
>>  and brakes and all that crap, it can keep up or beat it.
>>
>>  on a dragstrip - the lighter one wins, sure.
>>
>>  At 1:19 AM +0000 7/8/06, docwyte at comcast.net wrote:
>>  >Not yet, but my friend has a turbo one and I'm visiting him next week.
>>  >
>>  >You know better than that Rocky. Put me in two cars with identical
>>  >power to weight ratios, but one weighs 3000lbs vs 4000lbs and I can
>>  >guarantee you I'll be at least 5 seconds faster on track (given fast
>>  >lap of 1:45 or so) in the lighter car. You just can't get around
>>  >the mass and transitions are going to be sloppier, brakes will fade
>>  >quicker, etc, etc.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >-------------- Original message --------------
>>  >From: Rocky Mullin
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >> can't agree. ever drive a cayenne?
>>  >>
>>  >> At 10:37 PM +0000 7/7/06, docwyte at comcast.net wrote:
>>  >> >Sure I do. The S6 avant is too heavy to handle well, as is any car
>>  >> >that weighs 2 tons.
>>  >> >
>>  >> >-------------- Original message --------------
>>  >> >From: Brian J White
>>  >> >
>>  >> >> At 14:02 2006-07-07, docwyte at comcast.net wrote:
>>  >> >> >Yes, you do pay to play. However, I feel this is a poor choice to
>>  >> >> >pay. The car is too heavy to handle well, r
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>&g t; >> >> BTW, curb weight of the S6 Avant: 4024. Curb weight of the Allroad
>>  >> >> 2.7T 6-speed: 4167. Not that much difference. Certainly not
>>  >> &g t;> enough to label one a pig (too heavy to handle well) over the
>>  >> >> other. And I bet you wouldn't consider the S6 Avant a poor 
>>handling car.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
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