[ba] Intro; quattro seeks abuse

[Kevyn Shortell]

Uh, shot at? with what? A nerf gun? what?

Kevyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Haupt" <quattrodave at yahoo.com>
To: <ba-group at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: [ba] Intro; quattro seeks abuse


> I echo Steve's comments re: plopping in an MC instead
> of doing an aftermarket turbo.
>
> Over the years, I have driven many add-on turbo kits.
> They all suffer from one malady or another.  In
> general, they do not have the driveability of a
> "genuine" turbo motor.  One of the major differences
> is that the MC engines included knock sensors, so Audi
> could do a bit of boost push safely.  Even up through
> 1987, the N/A 5 cyl in the 4000Q had no knock sensor.
> And AFAIK, none of the aftermarket turbo kits included
> one.  The other thing you need to consider very
> carefully is whether you want to add a turbo to your
> how old I5?
>
> The 2Bennett $8000 upgrade includes an OVERHAULED
> turbomotor.  For $2k more, you can even get the 20V.
> Those were the prices last time I spoke with them.
>
> I saw one of the upgrades they did.  You'd never know
> the car wasn't a turbo stock.  I have a few modified
> cars here, and my experience says that if the car
> appears as if it probably came that way, you'll pass
> smog.  I even have a car with headers, two cats & twin
> pipes, where stock was a single exhaust and single
> cat.  They don't question it.  I'm convinced it's
> because I did not go with bright shiny pipes - the
> headers are just a tad rusty, as are the cats.
>
> I can't answer the question about events.  The time I
> might spend on rallies and the like is all spent
> renovating the only house in the county that I could
> afford that wasn't in a neighborhood where I was
> afraid I'd get shot at.  Unfortunately I guessed wrong
> on that last bit, having been shot at a few days
> ago!!!  Thankfully it was a nominally benign weapon,
> being air-propelled.
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- "Buchholz, Steven"
> <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com> wrote:
> > > I've come for advice about the future of Helmut
> > der quattro, my 84
> > > 4000. He's got >200,000 miles, some body damage
> > and quite a bit of
> > > wear and tear, but still runs well. I've started
> > to modify it for off
> > > road use, but wondering how much use I'll get out
> > of it. Are there
> > > rally races around here? Anybody know how to get a
> > 4000 with a turbo
> > > to pass a smog test without establishing residency
> > in Nevada? What
> > > other bay area cops will pull you over just for
> > driving a yellow car
> > > (besides Palo Alto)? Is Huw on this list? If
> > you're wondering whether
> >
> > ... to start with the last question ... no, I doubt
> > that Huw monitors this
> > list.  I think he lives back east somewhere.
> >
> > ... to answer the turbo question ... from what I
> > understand you can add a
> > turbo to the stock engine, but I'd imagine the
> > amount of testing you'd need
> > to do to satisfy the CARB regulators might be
> > excessive.  What others have
> > done is to drop in a similar stock turbocharged
> > engine from a turbocharged
> > Audi.  The CARB rules do allow you to install an
> > engine from a car that is
> > no older than the model of the rest of the car.  For
> > instance you could swap
> > an engine from a 1984 5000 turbo into your car as
> > long as you retained all
> > of the smog control features.  I think the most
> > popular swap is for the "MC"
> > code turbocharged engine from the '86-'91 type 44
> > (5000/200) cars.  I know
> > of one person in this area who recently did this to
> > his 4000Q ...
> >
> > As to local rally events, I think I'd point you to
> > the SCCA to see how many
> > local RallyCross events there are.  This is
> > something I would be interested
> > in knowing more about as well, but I've never had
> > the discretionary time to
> > check into it.  I've gotta believe that with cars
> > like the ScoobyDoo WRC
> > hitting our shores that interest in this will only
> > be picking up ...
> >
> > Steve Buchholz
> > San Jose, CA (USA)
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