[ba] replacing sub frame bushings

[Matt twentyV]

All of the reported 20V/ CQ failures have been
with the earlier stamped arms.
Matt

--- Chris Maresca <ckm at crust.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Dan Hamren wrote:
>
> > Chris were they the stamped A arms or the forged
> ones? I seem to
> > remember a thread on this a long while back..  any
> way if my memory
> > serves me correctly one of the guys on the list
> did a mathematical
> > computation which proved that the type of bushing
> should have no
> > impact cracking A- arms.  FWIW!
>
> Hhmm, I don't remember that, and I've been on the
> list for 7 years....
>
> > But more importantly.. the CQ came
> > with both a stamped ( early models I believe ) and
> a clam shell welded
> > ( forged maybe >?) ( later models ).. I think the
> stamped ones were
> > not as strong.
>
> The stamped ones are the problem.  They have other
> issues too, such as the
> elongation of the bushing hole...   I think that
> this is why Audi switched
> to forged A-arms.
>
> Chris.
>
> >
> >
> > Dan Hamren Sales Representative
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Maresca [mailto:ckm at crust.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:47 AM
> > To: Dan Hamren
> > Cc: Shayne; Wyatt's Dad's Audi
> > Subject: RE: [ba] replacing sub frame bushings
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe, but the Delrins just makes that fact worse.
>  As evidenced by the
> > fact that all the cracked arms were Delrins...
> >
> > Chris.
> > --
> > '90 CQ Red
> > '91 CQ Black
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Dan Hamren wrote:
> >
> > > Are not the CQ's prone to cracked A-arms anyway?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan Hamren Sales Representative
> > > Magnitude Electronics LLC
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> > > www.magnitude-electronics.com
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shayne [mailto:thequattroking at yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:24 AM
> > > To: Chris Maresca; Wyatt's Dad's Audi
> > > Cc: 'ba-audifans'
> > > Subject: Re: [ba] replacing sub frame bushings
> > >
> > > A cracked lower A-Arm usually has nothing to do
> with
> > > Delrin IME.  I have had cracked lower A-arms
> with the
> > > factory bushings.  However when I do the Delrin,
> I
> > > usually seem weld the A-arms
> > > --- Chris Maresca <ckm at crust.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Delrin is fine, but I've had issues with both
> > > > cracked lower a-arms and
> > > > sqeaking.
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Wyatt's Dad's Audi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 08:50 AM,
> > > > JShadzi at aol.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When I did Delrin bushings in my car, my
> initial
> > > > thought was
> > > > > > that the improvement was similar to when I
> did
> > > > the coil over
> > > > > > suspension on the
> > > > > > car, in other words, dramatic.  The stock
> > > > control arm bushings are a
> > > > > > huge
> > > > > > performance compromise from the factory,
> the
> > > > Delrins make up for this
> > > > > > with the side
> > > > > > affects mentioned above.
> > > > >
> > > > > Javad,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know of a good source for the Delrin
> > > > bushings? And even the
> > > > > stock type?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, next time I'm down the peninsula can I
> look
> > > > you up for a short
> > > > > ride to feel what it's like? I'm pretty
> happy with
> > > > the current handling
> > > > > since I have a couple of motorcycles to get
> the
> > > > super-tight handling
> > > > > stuff out of my system but if the Delrin
> isn't too
> > > > much more than the
> > > > > stock stuff and the work is the same then
> it's
> > > > worth my looking into.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any step in between stock and
> Delrin?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > M./
> > > > >
> > > > >
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