[BiturboS4] OT for BT - new S4 and S4 Avant announced

john sonty erhti at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 27 07:38:40 EST 2002


I think with many (not all), like myself, the whole point is
that *I* want to drive the car as 'manually' as I can.. For me,
that'd be with a manual transmission, i.e., my 6-speed. Oh, and
that'd also be w/syncros -- I wonder what people who drove the
'real' manual trannys where they truly had to double-clutch had
to say when syncros were first intro'd..   ??

Is there any type of computer-controlled/assisted aspect to my
6-spd manual tranny??  Hope not..  psychological, but I don't
like the thought of that; hence, why I most likely wouldn't buy
an AMG..

--- Ti Kan <ti at amb.org> wrote:
> Matt twentyV writes:
> > > > > I offer some facts I have read in The Roundel
> > > (BMW's monthly pub):
> > > > > 1. SMG II equipped cars ALWAYS outperform
> > > 6-speeds.
> > > > > 2. SMG II equipped cars are easier on driveline
> > > components, thus
> > > >creating a
> > > > > more reliable car.
> >
> > Well, I remain skeptical about the longer term
> > reliability of anything more complex than gears and
> > synchros.
>
> Well, the SMG *is* gears and synchros... it's a manual
> transmission,
> except that the clutch is operated by computer-controlled
> hydraulics
> rather than your foot.
>
> At any rate, the argument that some modern race cars use
> sequential
> boxes and therefore it's got to be superior is sort of a moot
> point.
> The performance of SMG vs. a standard manual is akin to
> splitting
> hairs, however the driving experience differences are real.  I
> contend that SMG would ultimately be a less involving
> alternative.
> For rush hour stop and go traffic, perhaps SMG (or better yet,
> Audi's multitronic CVT) is a good solution compared to a
> traditional
> slushbox.  But for a fun drive around the twisties, there is
> no
> substitute for a standard manual gearbox.
>
> Me?  I get my pick of which car to take. :-)
>
> -Ti
> 2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> 2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> 1984 5000S turbo
> 1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> --
>     ///  Ti Kan                Vorsprung durch Technik
>    ///   AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
>   ///    ti at amb.org
>  //////  http://www.amb.org/ti/
> ///
>
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