[BiturboS4] re: transmissions (mrdezign@netscape.net)

Tue Dec 31 11:10:51 EST 2002

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Hmmm, now I'm glad I got the tip.

-=Mike

Erik J. Engstrom wrote:

> You know, that I can believe. I would be CRUSHED if Getrag designed
> and built the gearbox in my car. It churns like butter, the throws are
> incredibly long. Considering I had both a "Getrag-5" and "Getrag-6" in
> new bimmers in the past two years, the entire mechanism feels
> distinctly different. The BMW clutch/gearbox is smooth, clicks and
> never has any delay - very direct and clean. In the S4, toe-heel is
> impossible without a neckbrace and divine intervention.
>
> Erik
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Michael Kuriger [mailto:michael at isuzu-mods.com]
>     Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:00 AM
>     To: Erik J. Engstrom
>     Cc: David Pramanik; biturbos4 at audifans.com
>     Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] re: transmissions (mrdezign at netscape.net)
>
>     audi probably rebadged the getrag tranny, like my dodge durango's
>     mercedes tranny  :-)
>
>     Mike
>
>     Erik J. Engstrom wrote:
>
>>According to my documentation, my service team and my tuning shop they are
>>not. They are Audi designed and manufactured. I have an 01. It would be nice
>>if this were a Getrag-6 and I can assure you. IT ISN'T.
>>
>>Thanks for your helpful input.
>>
>>Erik
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Pramanik [mailto:dap128 at hotmail.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:34 AM
>>To: Erik J. Engstrom; biturbos4 at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] re: transmissions (mrdezign at netscape.net)
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>>Ummm... the S4 manual transmissions are made by Getrag.
>>
>>http://www.getrag.de/frameset.htm?http://www.getrag.de/econtentlink/02_produ
>>kte/02_01_manuelle_schaltgetriebe/index.htm
>>
>>-Dave Pramanik
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Erik J. Engstrom" <engstrom at rawbw.com>
>>To: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:42 PM
>>Subject: [BiturboS4] re: transmissions (mrdezign at netscape.net)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>karmann,
>>>
>>>I've been driving Bimmers for about 10 years now and I'm spoilt on the
>>>Getrag-5 and 6. That company knows how to make sedan and coupe gearboxes
>>>
>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>>my modest opinion. The Audi gearbox has been causing me pain since I
>>>
>>>
>>bought
>>
>>
>>>my 01-S4 in March 01. To quote a famous commercial: "I Can't Believe It's
>>>Not Butter!" because I churn and churn. At 40,000 miles (27K interstate)
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>first, second and reverse gears are getting worn and the clutch is high.
>>>
>>>
>>The
>>
>>
>>>dealer is aware and intends to replace at 47-48k.
>>>
>>>Audi needs to stop making their own gearboxes. They are plain POS. I had
>>>this argument on AudiWorld a few years ago, not many listened, I was too
>>>
>>>
>>new
>>
>>
>>>to the Audi enthusiasts. I won't be buying another Audi, at least until
>>>
>>>
>>they
>>
>>
>>>OEM Getrag.
>>>
>>>The S4 beats my passengers up badly in all conditions, it's impossible to
>>>drive gently without the car suffering complete emasculation. I've watched
>>>my mother drive the car down the freeway from one of my bimmers behind
>>>
>>>
>>her.
>>
>>
>>>She was going so slow and conservative that the car actually swapped
>>>badging, replacing the red S with a flat chrome A.
>>>
>>>You're right about the S4 being superior. My 01 is the single most amazing
>>>car I've driven, but sadly it is far from perfect. (Read: gearbox). Had I
>>>the choice to make again, I would have driven home the Tip.
>>>
>>>"If you really enjoy driving you just gotta have several cars, each with
>>>those unique characteristics that in total satisfy all those "needs" that
>>>"make you" drive in the first place."
>>>
>>>I agree with you, I have three cars. All are in daily use by my partner,
>>>mother or myself. I had a few others, but the economic downturn made me
>>>terminate a lease and sell my new BMW's early. I was way in over my head
>>>(with cars) and didn't realize it until too late. I was too busy trying to
>>>capture and forgot the pleasure of the chase. How wise your comments are.
>>>
>>>"The reality is that if you are driving an S4, no matter what gear box it
>>>has, you are one fortunate SOB. Stop whinnin' and keep drivin'."
>>>
>>>When things started looking black for my business I had to make some tough
>>>choices. I tried hard to hang on to my Audi. I managed to do it and I'm
>>>super grateful that I did. Even though things are looking up, I won't be
>>>taking on any new cars for a few years. I've had my fill. I'm spending
>>>
>>>
>>more
>>
>>
>>>time working on my pristine 10-20 year old BMW's.
>>>
>>>"It's not what you drive, it's how much fun YOU have doin' it."
>>>
>>>Again, great point and a mature perspective. I love my S4 because every
>>>single time I get in it, I feel like I'm on my way home from the office on
>>>Friday and I've got a long weekend! It's fun, it's definitely built for
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>driver and I'll always be in love. I know how lucky I am to own one and
>>>
>>>
>>I've
>>
>>
>>>fortunately never really been into judging others by their cars. For me,
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>car is my choice... In the last year I really had to work to pay for it
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>it will return my hard with in spades with driving pleasure.
>>>
>>>I still love Sunday driving in my mint stage 3 E30. I get thousands of
>>>stares every time I drive it.
>>>
>>>Looking forward to the new year, I wish you all a wonderful and safe New
>>>Year. May we happily and thoroughly bury Annus Horribilus 2002.
>>>
>>>Erik
>>>
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