[BiturboS4] suspension upgrade

Mon Sep 9 21:13:01 EDT 2002

Scott,

Send me pix directly please so I can see the wheel gap. I'll have my springs
swapped (back to stock) when I mount new tires in a month or two as it will
be the perfect time to do an alignment. Best offer gets my H&R springs. It
is "Zero $" as of this point in time.

I've had the NeuSpeed/Bilsteins for a year now and they are as good as the
day the were installed. don't they have a "as long as you own the car
warranty"?

John Kjos

----- Original Message -----
From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s at hotmail.com>
To: <fastwheels3 at attbi.com>; <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] suspension upgrade

> OOPS, yes, 26.25" and stock springs.
> I'm using the lowest (of 5) shock-perch-groove in front, and will be using
> the lowest in the rear as well.
>
> The Bilsteins have broken in a bit over the past day or so and feel even
> better now. They look to be a good match for the stock spring rate.
> Dive/Squat have been significantly reduced, and turn-in has improved as
> well. I'm looking forward to installing the rears this weekend.
>
> IMO, a very cost effective upgrade that sacrifices little comfort in trade
> for better performance and bit more more of a "tuned" look. It's not low
by
> any means, but the front wheel gap now looks "right", rather than gaping.
>
> I'll probably take a nose/nose pic w/my wife's bone stock S4 this weekend
&
> will post pics. Interestingly (at least to me), the sedan & avant have
> exactly the same wheel well measurements (e.g. ride height) stock. For
some
> reason, the visually-heavier tail of the avant makes it appear like the
nose
> is (relatively) much higher on the avant than the sedan. Just an illusion.
>
> Finally, FWIW, the suspension R&R on our cars is pretty straightforward. I
> was spooked about taking the wrench to my baby, but it has proven
> surprisingly easy. I've swapped suspensions, sometimes multiple times, on
at
> least a dozen of my (and my friend's) cars over the past 7yrs or so, and
> this ranks as one of the easier ones. Definitely a DIY possibility.
>
> Scott.
> '02S4Avant
> '00S4
>
> >From: "Kjos'" <fastwheels3 at attbi.com>
> >Reply-To: "Kjos'" <fastwheels3 at attbi.com>
> >To: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> >Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] suspension upgrade
> >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:36:41 -0700
> >
> >Scott,
> >
> >Did you use the lowest shock setting? Did you mean 26.25"? That puts you
an
> >inch higher than me with H&R shocks and the same springs. You are using
> >stock springs, right?
> >
> >John Kjos
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s at hotmail.com>
> >To: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] suspension upgrade
> >
> >
> > > IMO, with the stock suspension, the damping is a bigger problem than
the
> > > spring rate. In other words, it needs good dampers more than it needs
> > > stiffer springs.
> > >
> > > What I'm 1/2 way through installation on is a set of Neuspeed
Bilsteins
> > > (that have f&r slotting, so you can lower it a bit). I installed the
> >fronts
> > > last weekend, and it dropped me about 5/8 of an inch & tightened up
the
> > > front suspension significantly. The rear shocks won't let me lower
quite
> >as
> > > much (~1/2"), but should compliment the fronts nicely. FWIW, right now
> >the
> > > front & rear wheel wells are at exactly the same height (~16.25").
> > >
> > > Just based on the performance of the front setup, I recommend this
> >solution
> > > for somone who isn't interested in drastic lowering, or in a punishing
> >ride,
> > > but wants to make a significant step-up in suspension
> >control/performance.
> > > (oh, it's a relatively cheap solution to boot).
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > '02S4Avant (the bilstein project)
> > > '00S4 (stock)
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kjos'" <fastwheels3 at attbi.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "Kjos'" <fastwheels3 at attbi.com>
> > > >To: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] suspension upgrade
> > > >Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:24:18 -0700
> > > >
> > > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > >--
> > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > >Yes new shocks are a must. I know, I tried them w/ stock shocks and
the
> >car
> > > >did not seem correct. It was bouncy and the steering even felt
heavier.
> >I
> > > >do not think I'd buy H&R springs again as they are too low for me
(1.3"
> > > >drop in front). I raised the front of the car about .5" when I
mounted
> >the
> > > >NeuSpeed/Bilsteins (only Bilsteins w/ height adjustability in front).
> >It
> >is
> > > >still a little too low for me. I'd get springs that only lower the
car
> >by
> > > >.8". There are several brands including stock European Audi springs
> >that
> > > >will fill the bill here. Of course, if you're not using the car for
> >street
> > > >driving, that's another story. I have no track experience so these
> >comments
> > > >relate to street use only set ups.
> > > >
> > > >BTW, shocks cost about $500/set plus $239 (you say) for the springs.
> >Labor
> > > >is something like $500 (here at least) so you're not saving a lot
> >compared
> > > >to coilovers. That way you can dial in your preferences and you won't
> >be
> > > >stuck w/ a solution that isn't exactly right like I am for now.
> > > >
> > > >I'll sell you my H&Rs for $150. Want em?
> > > >
> > > >John Kjos
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: California Fields
> > > >To: biturbos4 at audifans.com
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:44 PM
> > > >Subject: [BiturboS4] suspension upgrade
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> > > >
> > > >I was looking at suspension upgrades for the S4 and, basically, don't
> >want
> > > >to
> > > >spend $1,300 on a coilover kit.  Does anyone have any experience with
> >the
> > > >H&R
> > > >sport springs on the S4 (they're only $239)?  Is a shock upgrade
> >necessary
> > > >when going this route?
> > > >
> > > >I had H&R sports and Bilstein shock upgrades on my VW GTI and,
although
> >the
> > > >handling was great, it was a bit harsh of a ride.  I'm trying to get
> > > >something
> > > >a little less harsh for the S4...but something that will reduce the
sag
> >and
> > > >roll upon acceleration.
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