[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

Fri Apr 11 11:04:10 EDT 2003

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that is just the water pump kicking on but that does not help much since
it does not pump oil through the turbo.  it's the oil sitting in a hot
turbo that gets coked up.

Mike

Marc A. Abernethy wrote:

>It was my understanding from e-mails on this list that the S4 has a
>turbo timer.  It was just that I had never heard it come on.  I thought
>someone mentioned that you really had to drive it hard for it to come
>on.
>
>Anyone else remember this?
>
>Marc
>
>
>j y wrote:
>
>
>
>>Good point!
>>
>>My Porsche has a built in timer - depending on how
>>hard its driven - the fan and water (flowing thru the
>>turbo housing) - stay on for varying amounts of time.
>>That is a difference btw the Porsche and Audi now that
>>I think about it.
>>
>>jy
>>
>>--- Michael Kuriger <michael at isuzu-mods.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the one thing that audi has no control over is the
>>>cooloff before
>>>shutting down the motor.  if they had installed a
>>>factory turbo timer
>>>device, then these turbos would probably las a lot
>>>longer.  it's hard to
>>>pump oil through a turbo with burned oil in the
>>>lines and center
>>>housing.  I was going to put a turbo timer in mine,
>>>but it looked like a
>>>wiring nightmare and heard it throws codes when
>>>things like the climate
>>>controil try to operate with no power to the fans.
>>>
>>>any thoughts?
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>j y wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bruce,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the advice. At this point, there is no
>>>>record of me inquiring about strange noises under
>>>>
>>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>
>>>>hood until today. I can guarantee you that AUDI is
>>>>going to use TODAY as my day of record.
>>>>
>>>>That being said - I am SORRY - this is a well known
>>>>and documented problem. I will resort to trickery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>get Audi USA to honor mechanical defect - NOT AS A
>>>>RESULT OF ABUSE (the common claim of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>manufacturers).
>>>
>>>
>>>>The boost on this car never has NEVER been enhanced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>(I
>>>
>>>
>>>>must admit that I was planning to do so - but this
>>>>turbo failure got in the way).
>>>>
>>>>So, that being said - in my opinion - it's is
>>>>unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and weasle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi over the
>>>>warranty expiration - that is just TOO close - like
>>>>horse shoes and hand grenades. If I have to go the
>>>>"lemon law" route - I will. Too many people are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>aware
>>>
>>>
>>>>of the S4's reputation for turbo failure.
>>>>
>>>>In fact, the guys at AWE said "that even the late
>>>>2001s and 2002s have had turbo failure." Rule of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>thumb
>>>
>>>
>>>>was, the 2000s and early 2001s were suspect.
>>>>
>>>>I will not accept anything LESS than 2 new turbos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>plumbing under warranty!
>>>>
>>>>BTW, the car is sitting in my driveway - it will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>not
>>>
>>>
>>>>be operated until April 16th - when I drive it to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>dealer.
>>>>
>>>>In the meantime, I am driving my ALT (not up on my
>>>>German spelling - probably misspelled) PORSCHE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Thank
>>>
>>>
>>>>God - it's still ticking after 125k mi (on the
>>>>original turbo - been chipped for 5k mi - mainly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>keep
>>>
>>>
>>>>it at stock boost w/the Greddy Boost controller)and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>new body (kit). It wasn't meant to be my every day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>car
>>>
>>>
>>>>- thatwas what the S4 was suppoed to be.
>>>>
>>>>jy
>>>>
>>>>--- Bruce Mendel <brucem105 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Get Audi USA involved and on the record now.....if
>>>>>you drive around till
>>>>>4/16, they may say you made the condition get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>worse
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and/or more expensive to
>>>>>repair. Tell Audi you started hearing the noise
>>>>>PRIOR to expiration of the
>>>>>warranty, but were told when calling casually that
>>>>>turbos make whistling
>>>>>noises, and it was normal, and to call/visit if it
>>>>>got worse.
>>>>>
>>>>>It got worse, you are trying to visit, and this is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>known issue which you
>>>>>expect them to take care of if in fact it turns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to be blown turbos.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
>>>>>To: "biturbos4" <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:52 PM
>>>>>Subject: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My worst fear was confirmed today. Before taking
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>beloved Y2K Imola S4 to the Audi dealer - I opted
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>get an INDEPENDENT opinion - first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>While doing some other work (at 52.9k mi - it's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>out of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>warranty) on my S4, I asked AWE (reputable Audi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Tuner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>that is well known) to confirm my suspicions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>about
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>HIGH pitched siren like whine coming from my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>engine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>compartment when acclerating (becomes very
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>noticeable
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>at 2k RPMs and above).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Their professional opinion - Your S4 didn't throw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>any
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>VAG codes BUT - IT HAS NO BOOST TO SPEAK OF -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>PLUS
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>THE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>HIGH PITCHED WHINE - Buddy - We think you blew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>turbo(s)- Call AUDI - since you are so close to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>warranty expiration and you've NEVER CHIPPED the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>car.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I called the Audi dealer who sold me the car and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>serviced it from the beginning. Their response -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>=== message truncated ===
>>
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