[BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

Thu Jan 9 12:02:14 EST 2003

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The specifications are superior in just about all respects if you
believe the Amsoil site.  Granted it's expensive stuff, but in relation
to the cost of these cars and the importance of the engine oil to their
well-being I think its a bargain.  I just ordered up 4 more gallons and
some wiper blades and filters from their site.  If someone can show me
an oil with superior specifications I will gladly change - even if the
cost is greater than Amsoil.  I don't use it in my other vehicles (they
aren't turbocharged), but the S4 will continue to get the very best full
synthetic I can find.  John H.

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From: Michael Kuriger [mailto:michael at isuzu-mods.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:42 AM
To: John M. Harrison
Cc: S Stiles; vr6pilot at hotmail.com; jgc at norpak.net;
biturbos4 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

you guys must have $$$ to burn.  if you change your oil every 3K miles
you wont have any trouble.  paying close to $9 a quart for oil is
rediculous.  my truck has 197,000 miles on it and i use regular cheapo
oil in it.  my race cars use 20w50 racing oil (castrol syntec) and it's
even expesive to me.  how do you justify spending so much for oil?  I'm
not trying to start an oil war or anything I jsut have a lot of miles
and a lot of racing and engine building experience and I have never
known what is better about amsoil.
thanks!
Mike

John M. Harrison wrote:

I've been using Amsoil 0-30 synth changed at about 5000 mi intervals.

It meets the API SJ specification.  Oil temp never reaches the middle of

the gage, whatever temp that is.  The car has not used any oil that I

can detect.  Which reminds me I need to order up some more as 20,000 mi

approaches.  Visit the Amsoil site for the full specs at

www.amsoil.com/products/tso.html  John H.

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From: S Stiles [ mailto:stiles_s at hotmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:46 AM

To: John M. Harrison;  michael at isuzu-mods.com;  vr6pilot at hotmail.com

Cc:  jgc at norpak.net;  biturbos4 at audifans.com

Subject: RE: [BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

I've been hearing bad things about the new (trisyn? supersyn?) Mobil1

0w30

in particular. In fact, Mercedes has just released a bulletin stating

that

it's not approved for use in their cars.

IIRC there's a simple way to check whether it's OK for our cars. Be sure

it

meets all of the specifications (not just weight) in our owners manual.

I

believe it's the SJ spec that the new Mobil1 doesn't meet.

I'll dig up the article when I get a chance.

Note that I'm using this oil at the moment, and have noted that I'm

running

significantly higher temperatures (~20deg) and am consuming more oil.

The oil everyone seems to be recommending at the moment, if you can find

it,

is Mobil1 0w40, as it's still a "true" synthetic & meets all euro spec.

What's happening with their other oils is that they are starting to

blend

w/Dino to decrease costs. Yes, you can no longer trust that Mobil1 is a

full

synthetic oil.

Scott.

From: "John M. Harrison"   <mailto:JohnMH at uwyo.edu> <JohnMH at uwyo.edu>

To: Michael Kuriger   <mailto:michael at isuzu-mods.com>
<michael at isuzu-mods.com>,Walter J Green Jr

 <mailto:vr6pilot at hotmail.com> <vr6pilot at hotmail.com>

CC:  jgc at norpak.net,  biturbos4 at audifans.com

Subject: RE: [BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:11:44 -0700

This is my understanding as well.  Not sure why one would use any

heavier than 30 weight in these cars under normal operating conditions.

I'm going to continue to use 0-30 synthetic all year round.  Hope

everyone had a good holiday season.  We drove our S4 from Wyoming to

western Maryland and back.  The more I drive it the more I love it.

John M. Harrison  silver 2001 S4 Avant 6 spd 19,000 miles

no mechanical difficulties, I just tend to hit deer and debris - got

hit

by a chunk of wood not three hours out of Laramie which broke the

bumper

cover at the lower grill and the plastic under cover piece.  Only $1000

plus change this time.  I've become good friends with my local body

shop

and the State Farm Insurance claims folks.

-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Kuriger [ mailto:michael at isuzu-mods.com]

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:43 AM

To: Walter J Green Jr

Cc:  jgc at norpak.net;  biturbos4 at audifans.com

Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

actually, you use heavier oil in the summer not winter.  in winter you

need ligher oil for cold starts.  I've never heard of anyone using 5w50

weight in winter!  Unless you live where it's warm like california

-=Mike

Walter J Green Jr wrote:

it's ok, as in just ok.

as soon as warm weather comes around, I'd dump it in favor of some

0w30 or

0w40 (mobil 1 synthetic, of course).

__________

WJG

'01 S4

From: "James Coraci"   <mailto:jgc at norpak.net> <jgc at norpak.net>

To:   <mailto:biturbos4 at audifans.com> <biturbos4 at audifans.com>

Subject: [BiturboS4] Question re: 0W30 vs 5W50, both synthetic

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:07:27 -0500

Hello all,

This week, dropped my 2002 S4 off for an oil change, asking for

Castrol

Syn 0W30. Picked it up and the guy informed me they used Castol Syn

5W50

because "that is the winter equivalent."

Any thoughts as to the validity of this statement?

Any links to seasonal oil choices?

Thanks.

- Jim

email:  jgc at norpak.net

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