[BiturboS4] Greetings and looking for TSB's

[Michael Kuriger]

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thats what we do, but you're nut supposed to say that!! ;-)

Mike

California Fields wrote:

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>Am I the only one who has the complete OPPOSITE view about mods and
>warranties?  My view is that you should modify the heck out of your car as
>EARLY as possible (after, of course, a small breakin period).  When you have
>something break, the warranty will replace everything free of charge -
>provided you have switched back to "stock" condition for any "related" parts.
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>For example, I put a GIAC chip, Miltek exhaust and diverter valves in my S4 at
>9k miles. I drive it smartly but hard. I figure, if the turbo is going to
>blow, I'd rather have it blow BEFORE my warranty expires so that I can have
>Audi replace it at their cost instead of AFTER the warranty expires when I
>would pay for it myself.  I'll just swap the stock chip back if I need such
>service (I can also swap back the diverter valves in 15 minutes).
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>Am I missing something?
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>Carter.
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>Carter Fields, San Francisco
>2001.5, GIAC-X, Miltek 3" cat-back, Strat. shifter, Strat. DVs, A-pillar boost
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>>From: "John M. Harrison"
>>To: ian at codrus.com
>>CC: jy , mbenno at yahoo.com, biturbos4 at audifans.com
>>Subject: RE: [BiturboS4] Greetings and looking for TSB's
>>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:21:42 -0700
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>>Words of wisdom, Ian. I agree fully while my car is under warranty.
>>After its fully paid for and off warranty I may consider mods and
>>replacement of problem parts with aftermarket. I've enjoyed having and
>>highly recommend the Vag-Com software and a Bentley factory service
>>manual on CD. I've learned a lot about my car with these tools and can
>>see immediately what is going on when the check engine dash indicator
>>lights up.
>>
>>Wishing all a wonderful weekend. Enjoy your S4s - they are awesome
>>machines - even stock.
>>
>>Any recent news on the RS6 sedans? Anyone seen one for sale on a dealer
>>lot? The Audi USA website doesn't say much about them except that they
>>are limited availability. I suppose if you have to ask you can't afford
>>it. Still - a second mortgage on the house might do the trick :)
>>
>>John M. Harrison Laramie, WY two recent S-cars in town - I spotted a
>>new S6 Avant silver like my S4 - very sweet
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ian McCloghrie [mailto:ian at codrus.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:56 PM
>>To: John M. Harrison
>>Cc: jy; mbenno at yahoo.com; biturbos4 at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Greetings and looking for TSB's
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>>On Jan 23, 2003 "John M. Harrison" wrote:
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>>>I have not received the Engine Cooling Fan Shield recall letter.
>>>Perhaps this doesn't apply to later build date cars. The other items
>>>are not "recalls" in my view precisely because they are "silent."
>>>Common maintenance items, perhaps.
>>>
>>>
>>They are not recalls at all, they are TSBs.
>>
>>A recall is a situation in which the manufacturer decides (or is
>>forced by the government) to fix a problem in EVERY car. They send
>>out letters to registered owners, and flag it in the computer system
>>so that whenever a car comes in for service that recall will be done.
>>This is usually done for safety or emissions-type problems -- the
>>kinds of things that the government cares about. It's rarely done for
>>mechanical failures. A recall is fixed at the manufacturer's expense,
>>regardless of how many miles are on the car.
>>
>>The fan shroud issue is a recall because it is a safety issue --
>>Audi is worried about their mechanics getting hands/fingers/etc caught
>>in the fan, so they designed a new part to better protect that area.
>>
>>A TSB is not a recall, it is simply a notification to the dealership
>>mechanics of a problem that seems to be common, and a recommended
>>solution. It doesn't admit fault or imply any coverage other than
>>that given by the standard warranty.
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>>>My question is - exactly what action do you propose to take based on
>>>these common maintenance items. Do you recommend complaining about
>>>
>>>
>>all
>>
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>>>of them to your dealer even if there are no symptoms? Do you propose
>>>replacing all maintenance-prone parts with aftermarket and risk
>>>
>>>
>>voiding
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>>>factory warranty provisions?
>>>
>>>
>>Keep an eye on them. If they manifest on your car within the warranty
>>period, mention them on your next service visit and they'll almost
>>certainly be fixed without question or charge. If they occur after the
>>warranty period, then you have to decide if you're going to pay for
>>factory parts or aftermarket ones.
>>
>>Just got my S4 back from the dealer today -- they replaced valve cover
>>gaskets (leaking), replaced driver's seat heaters (broken) and installed
>>a
>>new clutch. Apparantly my battery case cracked (!) and the drain tube
>>got
>>dislodged and it dripped battery acid (!) onto the bellhousing, through
>>a drain hole, and onto the clutch friction surface, thus messing it up.
>>
>>--Ian
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