[Biturbos4] HELP! 2000 S4 Timing Belt Slipped

[Adam Schwartz]

Jeff,
So which dealer did you take this too? And where in Boston do you live?

I take my cars to a shop called Accell auto. They are in Waltham on 
Rt. 60. Somtimes a little slow, but they always get the work done 
right and their charges are very fair. I have brought them Audi, VW, 
Porsche... And they have been good with all. Currently they have a 
sweet Ferrari 308 that they are rebuilding the engine.. So you can 
definitely trust them. - 781-894-0470 tell em Adam Sent ya!

As for dealers: I have had good luck with Brookline VW/ Audi - And 
very VERY BAD luck with Pass & Weiss in Burlington.

I have never been to Ira Audi in Danvers, but a friend goes there and 
has only said good things about them.

good luck!

Adam


>Keman & Ned,
>
>    Thanks so much for the response, I hope you're
>right - I will get a written estimate/description of
>the issue as well as pictures.
>    I'm in the Boston area; does anyone know a "good"
>dealership or specialty shop that could give me an
>accurate second opinion on this?
>
>    I will send more info when I get something back
>from the dealer regarding the diagnosis.
>
>     Thanks again everyone for the quick response!
>     Jeff
>
>--- Ned Ritchie <Q at IntendedAcceleration.com> wrote:
>>  Jeff,
>>  I agree with Keman.  Turbochargers are not even an
>>  issue. A few valves
>>  and labor.
>>  Ned Ritchie
>>  www.IntendedAcceleration.com
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: biturbos4-bounces at www.audifans.com
>>  [mailto:biturbos4-bounces at www.audifans.com] On
>>  Behalf Of Keman
>>  Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:50 AM
>  > To: Jeff Bettencourt; biturbos4 at www.audifans.com
>>  Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] HELP! 2000 S4 Timing Belt
>>  Slipped
>>
>>  Jeff-
>>
>>  That repair bill is bullshit. I've fixed slipped
>>  timing belt engines
>>  which I
>>  am truely surprised did not happen at like 160k
>>  miles on a shredded,
>>  poor
>>  oil covered belt.
>>
>>  It costs some bucks, but nothing near that. New
>>  valves, cylinder head
>>  cleanup, and the labor. $2500, tops.
>>
>>  Timing belt failure has nothing to do with oil, even
>>  at 5000 rpm, let
>>  alone
>>  oil getting into the turbos. Even if oil did get
>>  into the turbos by
>>  magic,
>>  nothing happens as it is harmless. It would not
>>  require both turbos
>>  being
>>  replaced.
>>
>>  So.. either this is a joke or you have one seriously
>>  fraudulent
>>  dealership.
>>  I'd like to see pictures of this timing belt. If you
>>  could take them it
>>  would be useful.
>>
>>  $16,000 ? Get it in writing, contact an attorney,
>>  and sue the fsck out
>>  of
>>  them to get the whole thing for free. That's my
>>  opinion.
>>
>>  - Keman
>>
>>  >> Last weekend, I was backing out of my driveway
>>  and the
>>  >> car just stopped. I had it towed to my secondary
>>  >> dealer (my primary dealer couldn't look at it for
>>  2-3
>>  >> weeks!!). The diagnosis is not good - the timing
>>  belt
>>  >> "slipped", causing 2 valves to bend, oil to get
>>  into
>>  >> the turbos, etc. The repair bill for this is what
>>  >> truly took my breath away - $16,000 to FIX the
>>  car. (2
>>  >> turbos, 2 heads, water pump, timing belt, plus
>>  labor)
>>  >>
>>  >> Now I'm no expert on this stuff, but the car has
>>  a
>>  >> trade-in value of ~$18K, so do I now have a
>>  totalled
>>  >> car with almost NO value? With only 75K miles, I
>>  am
>>  >> well below the recommended interval of 90K or
>>  104K
>>  >> miles (I've seen both). My primary dealer
>>  actually
>>  >> wrote on my slip at 60K miles that I should do
>>  the
>>  >> timing belt at 70K, but when I brought it in for
>>  the
>>  >> 70K service, my "service advior" told me I didn't
>>  need
>>  >> to do it at 70K & that I should wait until 80K.
>>  >>
>>  >> So, my question here is - what next? I've
>>  contacted
>>  >> Audi and asked for help, but I am wondering if I
>>  have
>>  >> any other recourse. Has anybody else out there
>>  been
>>  >> through this? For those of you that haven't - go
>>  have
>>  >> your timing belts changed!
>>  >>
>>  >> Any advice/stories would be greatly appreciated!
>  >
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