[Biturbos4] Wheels - advice and experience

Grant gfl1 at optonline.net
Fri Mar 18 07:04:03 EST 2005 

This reminds me.  The prices I quoted was for fixing "hops" only - no 
cosmetic repairs.
Grant
On Mar 17, 2005, at 8:34 PM, j.koenig wrote:

> Just a bit more advice...  I had some Audi wheels straightened and made
> pretty several years ago, by one of the older wheel repair companies in
> Pennsylvania.  Nice job, but the paint wasn't even close to the factory
> finish.  Probably a good idea to discuss the finishing process with 
> your
> chosen guys before the job rather than after, just to be sure.
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant" <gfl1 at optonline.net>
> To: "northrup" <northrup at crazybug.com>
> Cc: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Wheels - advice and experience
>
>
> I have two places.
>
> One is "Auto Collision Experts" in Elizabeth NJ, right new Newark
> Airport. About $70 a wheel.
> Inconvenient, but recommended.
> (908) 352-5991 (12/04)
>
> The other, on which the jury is out, is USA Wheels, in Fiarwield NJ.
> About $100.
> UInclear that they did a great job. Also unclear that they did a bad
> job, just witholding judgement based on some odd circumstances with my
> last repair.
> (973) 227-7977
>
> Grant
> On Mar 14, 2005, at 10:21 AM, northrup wrote:
>
>> I drive that same road, and those ruts are HUGE!
>>
>> For those wheels, you might try someone like achtuning.com (josh is 
>> the
>> owner, but anyone should be able to help you).  You may get a better
>> deal there as compared to the dealer.
>>
>> btw, where would one get wheels straightened?  I took some wheels to
>> Wheel
>> Collision center in Bath, PA - but they wanted something like $250 to
>> fix
>> a minor wobble.  If there is somewhere cheaper, i'd like to know!
>>
>> wilson
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Grant wrote:
>>
>>> Quincy,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice.  BTW, I am familiar with the wheels you 
>>> suggest
>>> - they're just hard to come by (except at Audi's extortionist pricing
>>> new).
>>>
>>> My roads?  My commute.  New Jersey 287 north right now has *ruts*
>>> between the lanes for miles.  And several of my back-roads to work
>>> have
>>> pretty bad potholes, some which come up "around the bend".  I think
>>> I'm
>>> pretty careful, but it seems you can't be careful enough!  Its darned
>>> frustrating.
>>>
>>> Maybe I should sell my S5s and winter tires (once all straightened) 
>>> to
>>> someone who has better luck than me ....any takers?)
>>>
>>> Grant
>>> On Mar 13, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Quincy Chiang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Grant,
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of anyone bending the stock Avus wheels, given they
>>>> are approx. 28+ lb each, and are known to be damn strong!  Then you
>>>> went on and bent a few 16" wheels with even squishier tires?  I know
>>>> many people have 16" AT Italia S5 wheels as winters and have had no
>>>> problems with them.  Man you must drive on some really really bad
>>>> roads!!
>>>>
>>>> For OE wheel options, you can go with any 16" wheels offered on the
>>>> A6
>>>> with 2.7t because that car has the same front brakes as ours.  There
>>>> should be 2 types, a 5-spoke design and a 6 split-spoke design, both
>>>> are 16x7.  Do a search on Audiworld to see what they look like if 
>>>> you
>>>> don't know.
>>>>
>>>> There's also another OE wheel that clears our front brakes.  It's 
>>>> not
>>>> offered as a standard wheel but it's sold by dealers as a specific
>>>> winter rim for cars with the HP2 brakes.  These are 16x6.5, extra
>>>> narrow for mounting 205 or even 195 section width winter tires for
>>>> good winter traction.  I have them and here's what they look like on
>>>> my car:
>>>>
>>>> http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/41218/100-0022_img_small.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I know they're not they prettiest things, but they are quite heavey
>>>> duty and I seriously doubt they can be bent given the extra squishy
>>>> sidewall due to the narrow wheel width.  The previous owner got 
>>>> these
>>>> as part of his deal when he bought the car instead of getting a
>>>> discount, so I'm not sure what they cost.
>>>>
>>>> HTH and good luck with whatever new rims you get!
>>>>
>>>> Quincy
>>>>
>>>> PS: Wilson, interesting info.  Although I thought only the RS4 in
>>>> Britain had problems with bent rims, didn't know the regular S4's 
>>>> had
>>>> problems too, at least I've never heard of it until now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: northrup <northrup at crazybug.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:35 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Wheels - advice and experience
>>>>
>>>>> Grant:
>>>>>
>>>>> I recall reading something about the S4's with aluminum uprights
>>>>> in
>>>>> regard to wheels.  Note that i do not recall the source of the
>>>>> information, so it should be taken only as a possibility, and not
>>>>> fact.
>>>>> In any event, IIRC, it went something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Audi used aluminum uprights on the S4, but then there were some
>>>>> broken
>>>>> suspension issues.  To resolve this, softer (lighter?) wheels were
>>>>> used
>>>>> in  conjunction with the aluminum uprights.   This resulted in
>>>>> many bent
>>>>> wheels.   After this Audi essentially threw in the towel.
>>>>> Aluminum
>>>>> uprights were discontinued in favor of a stronger (heavier) setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stronger (heavier?) wheels were added.  The result: more unsprung
>>>>> weight,
>>>>> but less damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, all that means if you are shopping for another set of wheels,
>>>>> you may
>>>>> wish to consider the 2001+ variety.   Then again, if your car has
>>>>> aluminum
>>>>> upgrights, you may wish to continue with softer wheels!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is ever simple in the performance arena. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Grant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking for the group's collective experience with wheels.
>>>>>> I bought 4 snows and 16"  (16 x 7 x 35 ET) AT Italia S5 wheels
>>>>> from the
>>>>>> tire rack, and have bent several of them - while bending only 1
>>>>>> original avus wheel.  These things seem to be very weak/soft.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> about to throw in the towell and replace them, if I can figure
>>>>> out what
>>>>>> is better in the long run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious what experience people have had with other
>>>>> aftermarket or
>>>>>> 16" OE (used, presumably) wheels, especially RONALs (which made
>>>>> several
>>>>>> of the OE wheels).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good/bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grant
>>>>>>
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