[Biturbos4] Winter wheels

Thu Nov 8 08:58:45 PST 2012

What would a 2000 S4 that has been parked a few years (insurance costs) go
for as junk?

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Grant Lenahan <glenahan at vfemail.net> wrote:

> Yes but for clarity I am suggesting, in order to avoid bent rims (context)
> to NOT achieve the same OD but to intentionally go to a
> Larger, higher load rating, more protective size.  I the gave specific
> sizes I use on b5 andc5 respectively
>
> Gramt
>
> Sent from my phone -- please forgive my typos!
>
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Back to winter tires:
> > Assuming identical tires (compound, features, etc.), narrower tires are
> better on ice and snow, since PSI onto the surface to "bite" is critical.
>  This means ice, snow, hardpack.... but not wet or dry pavement.  A wider
> tire has more surface area and therefore less PSI onto the surface.  This
> is why desert tires (designed to float on top of the sand dunes) are wide.
> >
> > The minus one or minus two concept is simple- go with a smaller diameter
> rim (the minus) and a narrower width, but taller sidewall tire to match
> outside circumference to baseline, which means speedometer will be correct,
> etc.
> >
> > A site which I've used for years provides the graphics:
> > http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
> >
> > It's worth noting that every manufacturer has slightly different
> specs... mostly related to tread block design and height.  In other words,
> one manufacturer's 245/50-17 tire isn't exactly the same height or
> circumference than another manufacturer's tire, despite being the "same
> size."  So (very) close is good enough.  =)
> >
> > Mark Rosenkrantz
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Grant Lenahan <glenahan at vfemail.net>
> wrote:
> > 215/55-16
> > On my c5 I run 225/55-16
> >
> > Sent from my phone -- please forgive my typos!
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:17 PM, "John Koenig" <koenigj at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Oversize in what dimension(s)?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Grant Lenahan [mailto:glenahan at vfemail.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:44 AM
> > > To: John Koenig
> > > Cc: <biturbos4 at www.audifans.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Winter wheels
> > >
> > >
> > > A slight oversize tire helps immensely
> > >
> > > Grant
> > >
> > > Sent from my phone -- please forgive my typos!
> > >
> > > On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:23 PM, "John Koenig" <koenigj at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I've had the Momos and the AT Italias -- none of them are round
> anymore.
> > >>
> > >> The narrower section width of a 16" tire of the OE-equivalant overall
> > >> diameter is a great trick.
> > >> Check out the tires used on ice/snow set-ups for rally cars.
> > >>
> > >> ~John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: biturbos4-bounces at www.audifans.com
> > >> [mailto:biturbos4-bounces at www.audifans.com]On Behalf Of Henry
> Nisiewicz
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:11 AM
> > >> To: Mark Rosenkrantz; Richard van der Hoff
> > >> Cc: biturbos4 at www.audifans.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Winter wheels
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When I purchased my 2001 S4 sedan in 2001, I went to Tire Rack and
> got a
> > >> set of AT Italia S5 16 x 7's with 205/55-HR16 Michelin Pilot Alpins.
>  The
> > >> AT Italia's were one of only two or three wheels at that time that
> cleared
> > >> the S-4's OEM front brakes.  Most likely they're no longer available,
> but
> > >> the folks at Tire Rack should be able to come up with some
> alternatives.
> > >>
> > >> The advantage of 16's over 17's for winter is of course the taller
> > > sidewall
> > >> and the narrower tread with the about the same load rating.  I've been
> > >> participating in the Audi Club's winter ice driving schools for many
> years
> > >> and have found this arrangement very satisfactory.
> > >>
> > >> Hank (in Wisconsin)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> [Original Message]
> > >>> From: Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> > >>> To: Richard van der Hoff <richard at sw1v.org>
> > >>> Cc: biturbos4 at www.audifans.com <biturbos4 at www.audifans.com>
> > >>> Date: 11/7/2012 9:48:55 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Winter wheels
> > >>>
> > >>> There were a few, really few 16" rims that would fit a B5S4... But
> they
> > >> may be no longer made.  Anything newer, you're at 17" for sure.
>  TireRack
> > >> might have some alloy rims well under $150 each... A good investment.
> > > With
> > >> my wholesale account I get a decent discount on rims, but I can't drop
> > >> ship... So unless you're near Binghamton, NY you could try to find
> someone
> > >> local that deals with them.  Avoid the steelies... They just look
> awful
> > > and
> > >> are likely heavier and even more prone to salt corrosion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark Rosenkrantz
> > >>> Typos sent from my iPad
> > >>>
> > >>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Richard van der Hoff <richard at sw1v.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Well, (a) the tyres are more expensive, and (b) I can't find any
> steel
> > >> 17s, so the wheels are /much/ more expensive.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 07/11/2012 14:36, Shaun Blair wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> what is wrong with 17'S ....
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:08:22 +0000
> > >>>>>> From: quattro at rvanderhoff.org.uk
> > >>>>>> To: biturbos4 at www.audifans.com
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Biturbos4] Winter wheels
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's well past time I bought a set of winter tyres. I've been
> thinking
> > >>>>>> about getting a second set of rims to go with them, but that only
> > >> really
> > >>>>>> seems worthwhile if I can get some 16" steel ones to fit.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So, I know that a lot of 16" wheels won't fit over the B5 S4
> brakes -
> > >>>>>> does any body have any experience with ones that do?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Richard
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