[Es2] new project scope (long) -need feedback
Dave K.
desmo888 at comcast.net
Wed Mar 10 20:27:08 EST 2004
Peter,
I should be having Brullen building me a 3" system this Spring or Early
Summer. They will have a template then to offer it to others. A guy with a
CQ local to them will be using his car to fit it up then it will be sent to
me.
I like the Brullen systems and I could organize another group buy, this time
including a 3" option.
BTW, what the hell is "prolly"? ;-P
Dave K.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Schulz" <pcschulz at comcast.net>
To: "Ben Klumper" <bklumper at mdbworld.com>
Cc: <es2 at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Es2] new project scope (long) -need feedback
> Guys:
>
> Since I HAVE an S2 engine, pretty complete, with attached downpipe , I'll
> take and post as many pictures as I can...
> prolly to audiworld or my comcast homepage.
>
> Engine is _still_ sitting on a pallet, so I can get pretty good views
>
>
> any particular requests?
>
>
> -Peter
>
>
>
>
> >A couple of things:
> >
> >I found it easiest to run the harness through a new hole just under where
> >the battery used to reside. I also mounted the 3B ecu behind the
evaporator,
> >exactly where the 7A unit was. The harness is looooong so you'll still
have
> >some snaking around to do behind the engine.
> >I opted to stick with the CQ's clutch, flywheel and pressure plate. We'll
> >see how it holds up. I have a feeling that the clutch will outlast the
> >gearbox.
> >I know money is always a factor, but if you can find the things like an
S2
> >downpipe, intake piping and upper rad hose (to list a few) it will make
your
> >swap a whole lot easier. There are far more uniquely S2 parts required
than
> >you might think to make everything work out. I'm still finding this out
and
> >I'm near the end of my conversion! For example, the S2 locates the
wastegate
> >frequency valve in a different position than on the 200 just to clear the
> >headlight/hood lock. There are many situations you'll come accross where
> >either an S2 part or some custom fabbing is required.
> >
> >Good Luck!
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rick Houck" <rhouck at neo.rr.com>
> >To: <es2 at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:31 PM
> >Subject: [Es2] new project scope (long) -need feedback
> >
> >
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > Now that I have read the complete archives (end to beginning-head
still
> > > spinning) I see that there are several combinations of chassis,
> > > transmissions , engines, and performance goals on your projects. Since
I
> > > want to install my own stock '91 200tq 3B engine into my low mileage
coupe
> >Q
> > > chassis, it would appear that my new spare time project is the
easiest(?),
> > > cheapest, and least potent of them all.
> > >
> > > As background, I have already done a 10vt conversion for my track
coupe,
> >so
> > > I have some background, and I know the power boost is what these cars
> >need.
> > > My 3B came from the car I rolled, and we drove the car from 62k to
119k
> > > before the mishap. The engine ran fine and I plan to use it as is. The
TB
> > > and water pump are about 15k old. I have taken off all the intake and
> > > exhaust components for blasting and cleaning, and new gaskets. I even
had
> > > the cam cover powder coated red for fun. I went ahead and installed
new
> >rear
> > > seal, pan gasket, cam cover gasket, and any of the hoses and sensors
that
> > > are not easy to get at after installation. I also just installed the
metal
> > > cam gear, so I hope it is ready for the next 50 to 60k miles without
many
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > Since this is to be a nice street car, I believe I will be satisfied
with
> > > the performance of the stock engine in the lighter car. A chip is the
only
> > > enhancement I can anticipate at this time. Keeping my costs down is a
> >prime
> > > objective, and I don't mind making or adapting some of the items
needed,
> > > such as front cross member and intercooler plumbing. I pulled the 3B
> >engine
> > > myself along with all the harnesses I thought I might need. The coupe
dash
> > > and drive train are out, and just waiting for the battery box removal.
All
> > > cv joints are repacked and re-booted. I have new seals at each drive
hub,
> > > and new input shaft seal.
> > >
> > > Here is my plan so far, making the best use of money as the project
> > > progresses:
> > >
> > > 1: Decide on flywheel/clutch and assemble tranny to engine.
> > > 2: Install proper AC line in engine compartment for future use.
> > > 3: Stick with stock CQ alternator/AC locations.
> > > 4: Find the correct oil filter bracket and hoses for turbo. (may start
> >with
> > > stock parts until running & ready to invest in the AC)
> > > 5: Install harness through new firewall hole (where?).
> > > 6: Relocate battery to rear compartment.
> > > 7: Install new heater core & possibly complete heater assembly from
manual
> > > AC car to avoid climate control issues.
> > > 8: Install engine/drivetrain and connect harness.
> > > 9: Keep working and working on harness connections until correct.
> > > 10: Decide what IC will fit & fabricate cross member & plumbing to
suit
> >S2,
> > > RS2, or stock bumper, depending on $ and what I find.
> > > 11: Decide on air box or cone filter and install.
> > > 12: Decide to modify 200TQ down pipe or find one for 3B S2.
> > > 13: Decide on exhaust. Buy or have one fabricated.
> > > 14: Upgrade to 5 bolt hubs. Probably will use the same as my track
car.
> > > Porsche Boxster w/ A8 rotors up front, redrill rears.
> > > 15: New hood and paint.
> > > 16: Et cetera, et cetera....
> > >
> > > Have I missed some important steps? Feedback is welcome as I bounce
ideas
> > > off you guys. Tell me where I'm missing the boat. Thanks again, and
sorry
> > > for the bandwidth.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Peter Schulz
> 1990 CQ (perpetually awaiting S2 3b engine transplant)
> 1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica
> 1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey
> Chelmsford, MA USA
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