[Es2] things that tend to break on es2's at the track

[David Kase]

What am I missing?  Is there no room for the stock fan/shroud with the 
thicker rad?

The stock set up seems well designed and has two speeds.

Dave K.

Miller, Chris wrote:

>Agree that a bigger oil cooler is needed.  I assumed that mounting the
>cooler up high, like in the stock aux. radiator position, would be bad,
>as it might drain back when the engine is cool.  I'm hoping to mount
>mine in the lower right corner, below the airbox, with some ducting to
>move air to/from it.
>
>I'll have to price that RS2 fan shroud... was planning to cut/glue
>together something from the 200 fan shroud.  If it isn't crazy $$, the
>RS2 unit would be a nice easy upgrade.
>
>Chris 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: es2-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On
>Behalf Of Steve Eiche
>Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:01 PM
>To: Richard Tanimura
>Cc: es2 at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [Es2] things that tend to break on es2's at the track
>
>A larger IC will make the coolant and oil run hotter.  This is because
>you will be increasing the charge density, thus making more power, which
>
>makes more heat.   A bigger radiator is the way to go.  With a big 
>radiator, you can get rid of the aux radiator (nice spot for a bigger
>oil cooler), but I would not remove it if you are using a stock size
>radiator.
>
>For cars running lots of boost, a bigger oil cooler is a necessity for
>track events, etc.  This is because oil is used to cool the pistons,
>like water is used to cool the block and head.  If you are only taking
>care of the coolant, you are only doing half of the job.
>
>Steve
>
>Richard Tanimura wrote:
>
>  
>
>>That's interesting Dave. I have an S2 where I removed the aux cooler 
>>and I would agree with you. I think it made a small difference and I am
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>running slightly hotter than before. In retrospect, I think Audi put in
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>the aux rad for a reason.
>>
>>I have heard it argued that a larger IC, by lowering the charge temp, 
>>will lower engine temps. The lower intake temps propogate through the
>>    
>>
>engine.
>  
>
>>Makes sense to me.
>>
>>I have not done it yet, but my idea was to remove the aux rad to make 
>>room for a larger IC. I figured the effect of the larger IC would 
>>cancel the effect of the aux rad removal. So far I have only gotten
>>    
>>
>half way.
>  
>
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Es2 mailing list
>Es2 at audifans.com
>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/es2
>_______________________________________________
>Es2 mailing list
>Es2 at audifans.com
>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/es2
>  
>

-- 
David B. Kase
Engineering Manager
PDQ Industries, Inc.
2754 Creek Hill Road
PO Box 507
Leola, PA 17540

717-656-4281 (p)
717-656-8749 (f)