reset: 4kstq project (and a proposal)

Ken Keith auditude at neta.com
Wed Dec 13 11:39:16 EST 2000


Okay, I need to get back on track here.  No new car purchases until my 
turbo project 4ksq is finished.  I have enough on my plate, and am 
getting ahead of myself, as I tend to do.

I will be getting an '87 5k turbo fwd automatic.  I want to put this in an 
'85 4ksq.  If anyone's interested, I'd like to discuss the issues involved 
with doing this.

I'm aware of some of the 4kq turbo conversion sites on the 'net.  There 
are probably new ones, so if you know of any, please send me the 
links, or post them here if appropriate.

Let me summarize some of the main issues I will be dealing with.  If I 
miss anything, or am wrong, please let me know.

Flywheel:  The donor is an automatic, so I need a flywheel.  I don't think 
I can use the 4ksq flywheel, due to the timing reference 				
pins/sensor system.  Should I source a 5ktqm flywheel, or do some 
kind of modification (what type?) to my 4ksq 'wheel?  I also have to 
change the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft.  Should I look for a 
custom lightweight flywheel, like a Meuller fabrication one?

Battery:  Relocate to trunk, route fat power (any sense to do a ground 
too, while I'm at it?) cable to engine compartment.  Anything special 
here?  Do people add a jump start post under the hood, a la 5k or just 
jump from the trunk?

Tie rod:  Need either an ur-q right side, or bend/modify existing one to 
clear (I forgot what, the turbo?).  Are ur-q one's available?  Is 2B the only 
option for a modified one?  Can I modify my own, and how?  Can I make 
a prototype, and begin to mass-produce them and sell them along with 
other dedicated esoteric Audi type stuff (aftermarket flywheels)?

Wiring:  All the engine wiring should come over with the engine, but I 
need to integrate this to the instrument cluster and to power and 
ground.  Is this a big deal?  How much of the stock 4ksq wiring will I be 
retaining and using?  I haven't thought this one through yet, and I don't 
know if I should expect to have it all planned out to the tiniest detail, 
before I start?  Should I just carefully go for it, or is there some kind of 
action plan I should draft?

Airbox:  Can I use the 4ksq fuel distributor and airbox?  Why wouldn't I 
be able to?  Can the 4ksq distributor handle the output for the MC 
motor?  Please share any info on this.

General:  So, basically I clean the donor's engine compartment, label 
everything, remove the dash, remove the motor, and remove the wire 
harness.  On the 4ksq, I remove the motor and some(?!) of the wire 
harness, (do I have to remove the dash?), put in the right side wire 
harness, install the motor, finish wire harness installation.  Or, do I 
install all the wire harness first, then install the motor?

Should I leave the tranny in situ in the 4ksq while I install the motor, or 
try to assemble them first, then install?

What else am I missing?  I hope this thread takes off, I'd love to get my 
mindset ready to take this on.  It should be a high priority to me, since 
I've had the 4ksq and the plans for this for about 3 years.

Should I dive into the install, and tackle issues as I go?  Specifically, 
should I wait until I have the tie rod issue solution in hand before I start, 
or should I get to that when I get to that?

I guess after I get the donor home, I will have no excuse not to start, 
except for that once I start, I will be stuck until I finish.  At least now, 
my 4ksq rolls, and there's only one non-running car.

Does anyone want to do this for me for money or other compensation?  
Does anyone want to help (help!)?  I'm located in Gilbert, AZ, btw.

PROPOSAL:  How about a 4ktq list?  It can deal with the special 
issues facing 4ktq owners.  I volunteer for whatever kind of volunteering 
could be used.

Thanks!

Ken Keith

current stable:
'88 5kcstq (driven daily, ex-MC1 donor)
'85 4ksq (MC1 project)
'87 5kta fwd (soon to be bought, MC1 donor)
'94 SL2 (was driven daily, until 5kcstq got running)

past Audis:
'85 Coupe GT
'86 Coupe GT



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