Rear Stabilizer Bar

Lawrence C Leung l.leung at juno.com
Thu Nov 16 23:14:53 EST 2000


Ahhhh, exactly what I said. And I've been in a car with Mark driving
(McCamey Solo school, recommended to anyone who drives). Awesome!

LL - NY

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:00:05 -0600 "Patrick Washburn"
<washburn at dwave.net> writes:
>While this is the "boilerplate" solution to most FWD understeer 
>problems, 
>note that no single thing acts alone when it comes to setting up a 
>balanced 
>car.  Sring rates, damper compression and rebound rates, roll bar 
>rates, 
>alignment, all add up to the total package.  
>
>Example:  My SCCA Solo2 Neon.  Conventional wisdom had everyone 
>putting 
>smaller front bars, or none, on.  Eventual better solution?  (As 
>determined 
>by multi-National Champion Mark Daddio)  Stiffen the front with the 
>bigger 
>bar, as well as valving the Koni's off the charts on rebound 
>stiffness.  
>Understeer eliminated by creating better contact patches through 
>better 
>camber curve.  We run 3 degrees neg camber however, so I would not 
>suggest 
>this as the only solution.  For most, I agree that a stiff rear bar 
>with a 
>softening of the front will help most people's understeer, assuming 
>tire 
>pressures and alignment the same.
>
>> David Coleman wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, understeer is corrected at the rear axle, especially if 
>it's a
>> front-driver.  I race an ITC Scirocco, and am running one big bar in 
>the
>> rear, and NO bar in the front.  The car used to push like mad, 
>until, at 
>the
>> advice of about the entire field, I removed the front sway bar.  
>Some
>> fwd'ers are using TWO rear bars.  Also, no top strut tie bar is 
>used,
>> although that's due to rules constraints.
>> 
>> Essentially, it's the car's tendency to "fall over itself" that lets 
>the
>> front bite.  Although I haven't taken the time to try to comprehend 
>the
>> higher physics of it, I can tell you it's much faster that way (2-3
>> seconds).  It seems that by reducing sway in the rear, it bites 
>less, and
>> has more of a tendency to float around toward the front.  I suppose 
>an
>> ultra-stiff suspension helps matters too.
>> 
>> -dave
>
>
>Patrick Washburn
>C-Tech Trailor Cabinets
>Wausau, WI
>www.racecabinet.com
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