And the answer was... bad battery. Split casing, one empty cell. So the sunroof gyrations were a symptom rather than a cause of the low battery. -- Chris Palmer (1995.5 S6 Avant) "Ashes to ashes, Sustaining IBM/Switched Protocols dust to dust, Nortel Networks if Lillee don't get you, capalmer at nortelnetworks.com Thommo must."