"Theron J. Bliss" wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you all will. : ), but isn't the > Quantum (Passat) more like a 1983 and older 5000 then the 4000? No, it's the same as the 4k. Pop the hood on them both, and you'd hardly tell the difference. PerL 92 100 2,8q Avant